Grind Sandstone Into Sand

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Re: Grind Sandstone Into Sand

Postby azrid » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:01 pm

Audiosmurf wrote:I was just thinking about what a bottleneck sand is, while having no way to wiggle around it like many other bottlenecks do.

I get that
I would rather see a more tame version of sand quality increase though
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Re: Grind Sandstone Into Sand

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:10 pm

>99% of village never put in the man hours to get topQ industry, and the remainder still mostly burn out maintaining it after a few months.

Industry has a habit of getting progressively harder over time with new additions like OP, or compost bins, or grid irons, the million other intermediary steps there are to get an actually good anvil. More shit to do might be cool in concept, but the actual result is an overwhelming system only very few groups can compete in. OP's suggestion is especially insidious in a rich get richer SMH sense because the strength and tool softcaps to mine lower levels are already something that's out of reach for most people.
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Re: Grind Sandstone Into Sand

Postby maze » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:56 pm

-1.

sand turns to glass what turns to Coade Clay; You'd be basiclly giving miners the full game of raising the industry with needing to find ever damn rock in the game. What will require more hours for players to put in or larger villages or more bots.
It's getting bloated...
how about not making the game more tedious of needing to find more shit to constantly raise industry.
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Re: Grind Sandstone Into Sand

Postby Asgaroth22 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:54 am

-1. Miners really don't need more workload thrown on their backs.
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Re: Grind Sandstone Into Sand

Postby jock » Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:43 am

azrid wrote:
jock wrote:+ 1 (+ 2 cause snail hates it)

you cant live your life like this
its not healthy


I live well, I'm not even playing anymore after loftar made i clear this and next worlds are short worlds.

vatas wrote:
jock wrote:+ 1 (+ 2 cause snail hates it)

If Snail told you not to jump off a bridge, would you jump?


I would let him go first then decide ;)

In all seriousness tho this idea has been brought up a bunch and is in current game sense and practice the likely approach that will be taken to increase sand ql. Not the best outcome by a long shot but it's better than leaving sand locked FOREVER at World Best ql plus lets be honest, it be an alternative to botting bones from animals in a fair number of cases. So anything that offers more pathways to good ql industry = good to me. It might also lead to a reason to make actual high ql steel for the machine.
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Re: Grind Sandstone Into Sand

Postby DDDsDD999 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:31 am

jock wrote:I live well, I'm not even playing anymore after loftar made i clear this and next worlds are short worlds.

You suck at reading lol
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Re: Grind Sandstone Into Sand

Postby Fostik » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:14 pm

From the one point of view I do agree that it brings additional complication to industry, which makes it crucial to follow but all playerbase wouldn't be able to follow up everything at once.
From the another one, sand is one and single(correct me if I'm wrong) natural material that is not replaced/substituted for better qualities by other end-game materials.

All in all, it should be there, but shouldn't complicate industry furthermore.
After all, having sand equal to quartz (and quarryartz please) quality won't make it crucial complicating glass -> coade clay -> mold -> anvil production chain, as sand being already casting material will be potentially better analog for molds, actually making metal production easier.
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Re: Grind Sandstone Into Sand

Postby AriZona » Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:45 pm

+1

I was negative initially, but it could be a good thing after thinking: sand (... water as well) as material has no means its Q to be improved, while the most materials have their ways in the game. Giving a chance to increase sand Q also could improve some curious that are practically abandoned; not mentioning it would add a big boost to most industries.

Also, there is no bloating: if somebody things it is too much to grind sandstone to sand - just don't do it.
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Re: Grind Sandstone Into Sand

Postby Mr_Bober » Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:46 am

vatas wrote:
jock wrote:+ 1 (+ 2 cause snail hates it)

If Snail told you not to jump off a bridge, would you jump?


Yes, cause the only reason snail doesn't want me to jump is to be the one to kill me.
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sand... oh, I get it!

Postby Molluscontrarian » Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:42 am

-1 what do you think this is, you little shit? A farmville game for pussys?

Haven and Hearth is made and kept great by its weird and vestigial eccentricities and High Skill content like tedious clicking. Stop trying to turn it into candy crush fortnite farmville by sanding off all its rough edges!

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