P2P plan

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Re: P2P plan

Postby kalkkar » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:21 pm

Bowshot125 wrote:7 hours is not enough for what I do, and not everyone has 10$ to pay for a game. Some of us use that 10$ to just make it by with food. Despicable.


indeed i spend alot of time on my projects but i can sacrifice 10$ for a game like this, time to eat some cheap ramen!
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Re: P2P plan

Postby Headshot » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:19 pm

The server is up

There are 287 hearthlings playing.
Saturday, almost 3 month after start of game. P2p works.
(droped from 2k from start/700 @ 1st month/ 500 @ 2nd month)

Numbers better than words.

2 devs. I think you guys needs seriois rework of payment system. Of course if you dont want empty server.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby ArvinJA » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:44 pm

The same people who can't afford to pay to play (either through sub or through verifying) are probably also the ones who can't play the game due to low FPS, or at least I expect that there's a huge overlap. Numbers don't tell the whole story, a lot of people join a new world and realize for various reasons that they don't want to play as actively or at all, that can be for real life reasons or in-game reasons, and from the numbers alone you wouldn't really know. I also know a few people who aren't playing due to low frame rate, but they still gave it a go in the start.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby shubla » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:46 pm

Headshot wrote:The server is up

There are 287 hearthlings playing.
Saturday, almost 3 month after start of game. P2p works.
(droped from 2k from start/700 @ 1st month/ 500 @ 2nd month)

Numbers better than words.

2 devs. I think you guys needs seriois rework of payment system. Of course if you dont want empty server.

Looks like somone cant afford to pay 10 dollars a month ¦]
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Re: P2P plan

Postby LadyGoo » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:51 pm

shubla wrote:Looks like somone cant afford to pay 10 dollars a month ¦]
Isn't it like 500-600 people + 150 casuals who are playing nowadays?
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Re: P2P plan

Postby MusicWarrior » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:51 pm

Headshot wrote:The server is up

There are 287 hearthlings playing.
Saturday, almost 3 month after start of game. P2p works.
(droped from 2k from start/700 @ 1st month/ 500 @ 2nd month)

Numbers better than words.

2 devs. I think you guys needs seriois rework of payment system. Of course if you dont want empty server.


You registered here 5 years ago, you should know that this game is dedicated for old friends and old players. What do you expect? That developers will care about players who want to have some fun for free? As long as there are people who are willing to pay for 50 sketchbooks and don't mind losing everything because of stupid bug, they won't change anything what they like.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby barra » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:29 pm

LadyGoo wrote:Isn't it like 500-600 people + 150 casuals who are playing nowadays?

Yeah, even the regular free players are probably only logging in once or twice a week after their initial binge.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby August » Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:38 pm

There are 185 hearthlings playing.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby Avu » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:03 pm

It would be worse without autocurio probably.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby Amanda44 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:43 pm

This time of day is not a good indication of players though tbf, not that I'm denying it is slowly going down with every passing month .... I'm also not at all convinced this is just a money issue, though the new way of trading which for most ppl just means putting more money into the game on top of their subs I'm positive hasn't helped matters, esp for those who are still having problems with the payment methods, there is no doubt the p2p introduction initially drastically lowered the player base but if you look at the drop on the haven tracker following from the 10th Nov after the kingdom announcement you will see that a lot of people leaving now just weren't happy with the direction that Haven is going in ... ofc most of those still left are all for it, but, many weren't.

And, as I've said before, the game is very slow now, it takes forever to do anything - this increases the boredom factor and a lot of people probably don't want to pay each month to be bored, lol, most of us now left have been here a long time, we have more investment in the way of friends, love for the game and hope for it's future, this is not true for new and newer players or those who play in a more casual way.

It's no longer just purely an issue with people unable or unwilling to pay.
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