Fate Stuff

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Re: Fate Stuff

Postby FlamingRain » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:25 pm

_Gunnar wrote:Was it really the foraging that people enjoyed rather than the exploration and the chance to encounter other people?


As a person not so good with pvp, I never enjoyed meeting bear-headed, armor wielding, sword-slinging "people".
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Re: Fate Stuff

Postby Jalpha » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:30 am

Foragers represent.
So I'm biased because I enjoy foraging in Haven, I didn't enjoy it in Salem. Now there's little to no reason to forage at all which is disappointing. Really it only duplicates Salems foraging mechanic, which was to collect huge numbers of almost valueless things.
Do any foragables, even in large quantities, really compete with high ql end game craftables? Have they ever?

If some balance was necessary I think this has gone too far to a negative extreme. Sure flots shouldn't really be a staple but I miss that little spike of endorphin when I found one.
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Re: Fate Stuff

Postby Asgaroth22 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:01 am

Jalpha wrote:Foragers represent.
So I'm biased because I enjoy foraging in Haven, I didn't enjoy it in Salem. Now there's little to no reason to forage at all which is disappointing. Really it only duplicates Salems foraging mechanic, which was to collect huge numbers of almost valueless things.
Do any foragables, even in large quantities, really compete with high ql end game craftables? Have they ever?

If some balance was necessary I think this has gone too far to a negative extreme. Sure flots shouldn't really be a staple but I miss that little spike of endorphin when I found one.


While I very much enjoyed foraging in late salem, where they added lots of great rare inspirationals, I liked old haven foraging too. I felt the same way about flotsams, bluebells, etc.
Right now, when I find flotsam, I have a tiny moment of "yay!", followed by grim realization that it's probably the only one I will find in weeks, and it's not that good anymore.
Anyway, why is foraging limited to 1600 perc*explo? Why can't we have forageables that require 2000, 10000, 20000 perc*explo? Foraging is now only good for newbies and enthusiasts, except for dragonflies and glimmers, everyone needs them. But it's hardly foraging, you just go to swamp/cave and pick them up, it's predictable, and so it became boring. Where's the sense of exploration in this?
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Re: Fate Stuff

Postby stya » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:55 pm

Foraging also is one of the only moment where you go out of a 100% safe zone to a less safe one. Fate/foraging system could use some new mechanics, let's say the further you go from your hf/village, the more interesting the discoveries become in term of spawnrate/kind of forageables found. That could also decrease if you stay in the same zone, or go back.

I had something like an archery target in mind, each circle could have a level that determine what you will find in it, the center is your hf/village (or you can combine 2 targets) and the level of the zone could decrease when you stay too long in it and could be reset when porting back.

That is just one idea, I'm pretty sure we could find others or improve this one :D
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Re: Fate Stuff

Postby evangili » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:05 pm

well , i think every 5 objekts u forage there shoudl be a capcha (prevents boting) that wont pop up again for another 20 -30 mins . this would kinda lower usage of forage bots and forageables could still be improved
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Re: Fate Stuff

Postby Carebear » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:22 pm

evangili wrote:well , i think every 5 objekts u forage there shoudl be a capcha (prevents boting) that wont pop up again for another 20 -30 mins . this would kinda lower usage of forage bots and forageables could still be improved


Wont do anything by grief legit players - why do people keep coming back with this anti-bot insanity. Good botter's will just find a way around it.
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Re: Fate Stuff

Postby evangili » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:29 pm

still, just removing some fun from the game because of botters is pretty annoying. + what about others who cant use bots/ dont WANT to use them (moral reasons etc)? these are my thoughts
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