Make palisades easier (getting leather faster) to make

[joojoo1975]

Or we could just Raise the LP cost of rage quite dramatically

[noindyfikator]

Bob Dole wouldn't mind quests changing. Instead of being a thing you do continously, make quests very rare, and the rewards likewise very good, like 10k lp.

Bob Dole, lp reward early in the game is very cancerous IMO

[Dawidio123]

Or we could just Raise the LP cost of rage quite dramatically

Okay, what number. And what do you then do about ppl coming to your claim and just bashing it before it's dried?
If we want to delay rage we have to remove lp rewards from quests (and the ql ones too).

[Vert]

Or we could just Raise the LP cost of rage quite dramatically

Okay, what number. And what do you then do about ppl coming to your claim and just bashing it before it's dried?

nice joke. Do you need a guide?

[noindyfikator]

Or we could just Raise the LP cost of rage quite dramatically

Okay, what number. And what do you then do about ppl coming to your claim and just bashing it before it's dried?
If we want to delay rage we have to remove lp rewards from quests (and the ql ones too).

are u kidding right? no way u are serious

[joojoo1975]

Okay, what number. And what do you then do about ppl coming to your claim and just bashing it before it's dried?
If we want to delay rage we have to remove lp rewards from quests (and the ql ones too).

Well to start off a Number so grand that it HIGHLY discourages people to acquire rage in the first hour or two, day or two, or even first week or two.

And unless I am mistaken, without rage, you cannot get vandalism. And Pali cannot be built unless on a claim?

So take out the entrance skill, you cannot acquire the other skills until then.

[Dawidio123]

Okay, what number. And what do you then do about ppl coming to your claim and just bashing it before it's dried?
If we want to delay rage we have to remove lp rewards from quests (and the ql ones too).

Well to start off a Number so grand that it HIGHLY discourages people to acquire rage in the first hour or two, day or two, or even first week or two.

And unless I am mistaken, without rage, you cannot get vandalism. And Pali cannot be built unless on a claim?

So take out the entrance skill, you cannot acquire the other skills until then.

I meant bashing the claim. And unless we remove the questing for lp the time to rage will still be attainable in the first day or two for ppl who just quest for 24h a day (or acc share), and for everyone else it'll be a mess. Unless questing is fixed I don't want any lp cost increases to anything, i'd be happy if questing was removed all together.

[joojoo1975]

I meant bashing the claim.

I guess I am not understanding.

In order to Bash a claim, you have to have vandalism. So what exactly are you talking about?

[Dawidio123]

I meant bashing the claim.

I guess I am not understanding.

In order to Bash a claim, you have to have vandalism. So what exactly are you talking about?

Not if it's not active. And tbf if the claim is active vandalism doesn't help you as you can't just bonk it (which btw is an issue as ppl can just spawn dumb claims around you at 0 cost and you have to place a ram to bash them if you let them dry, now with added thingpeace breaking)

[Nocturnal-Rainbows]

IMO Rage isn't an issue. If anything, it's Vandalism which should go up in price significantly.
I've legitimately had run ins with people who rush Rage early on and they're not an issue. You should by all means have more UA than the guy who spent 30k LP on Rage early on.
That being said, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to seeing Rage go up to, say, 50k LP. It wouldn't do much in the grand scheme of things, anyone who's gonna rush it is still going to get it but that is another 20k LP. It's not nothing early on. Not counting quests or discoveries, my early game optimal study desk (optimal without accounting for the rarer curios like Ant Empress etc) gives me around 16k LP every 11 hours. That's like my day 1 study desk too.

But yeah, I'm not really arsed about people rushing Rage. It's Vandalism that is a pain in the ass to stop because if someone has Vandalism you are essentially forced to have Rage yourself to try to stop them from breaking in and taking all your shit and if Rage goes up in cost then it's even harder to have it to stop said situation. It's a bit of a catch-22.

I dunno though, I'm weird, I think the early game having these unique dangers is what makes it cool. If you find a nice hidden cave and keep to yourself I think your chances of being found are slim. If you're with a big group and you're causing a shit ton of mischief and some other big group locates your cave then I don't really see an issue with that. You've been fucking with other people, isn't this the exact scenario you want? Knock the people who are coming to get you out lol... Unless the only people you wanted to fuck with are people who were never going to fight back anyway but if that's the case then tough shit.