one continent pve only

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Re: one continent pve only

Postby Mr_Bober » Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:41 pm

Rather than PvE, they could attempt a soft-PvP, where you can only do Assault (KO, no murder, not even death by concussion -drop at 1hhp instead), and no theft/vandalism on claims. That way you could still get "rid" of annoying grieferes outside claims or in your own claim, but nothing else.

That being said, I don't think it's worth it.
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby XBBW » Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:55 pm

joojoo1975 wrote:
most of the people wrote:Yea, let people harass you without you being able to do anything about it. Great idea. Let them steal your stuff and kill you animals and break your house, what you gonna do? Nothin of course, it's pve area.


This happens only if you do not have a P claim up first. Because as soon as you get a P claim up how are they going to do this? Since criminal acts are not allowed? It will be kind of like the first part of a new world, where no one has criminal acts or an established village yet.

So what? If pve content removes the use of murder, theft and vandalism, it still doesn't stop people from fucking you over. Have fun walking in a circle when I create a massive circle of claims and build houses just sticking out of the claims so they are still protected by claim, have fun going nowhere. You can't tresspass nor you can destroy.
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby stya » Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:09 am

-1

Come back when you understand game mechanics well enough and have an idea that works
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby joojoo1975 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:40 am

XBBW wrote:So what? If pve content removes the use of murder, theft and vandalism, it still doesn't stop people from fucking you over. Have fun walking in a circle when I create a massive circle of claims and build houses just sticking out of the claims so they are still protected by claim, have fun going nowhere. You can't trespass nor you can destroy.


I understand what you say. And to be brutally honest. If you are going to set out getting at least 4 chars up and running with Yeomanry. then find your target's base and then get the mats for at least 4 p claims. Then yea! you are gonna be hell on wheels. Of course, if that's is your primary goal in this game to come and be a true stain and ass hat to others in this game. Then this should be right up your alley. Otherwise, while I do see that what you speak is plausible, it's just not readily doable.


stya wrote:-1

Come back when you understand game mechanics well enough and have an idea that works


Love it how you just come in and say stuff without backing anything up.
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby TheServant » Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:47 am

i understand most ppl appealed to pve wont be dicks but there will be people just to ruin experience. one can expand vclaim crossing a entire continent like it already happened worlds before,

theres so many ways to exploit that will be a lot of work. i guess its not possible without ingame admin.
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby MightySheep » Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:49 am

It doesn't work without constant hands on moderation like in wurm and they can't even find non retarded moderators for the forum nvm the game
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby joojoo1975 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 2:35 am

Though I agree that there will be people going out of their Way just to make this concept fail, I also feel that a lot of things have changed in the game that this might have a chance.

Granted there could be a village or 50 that will just decide to banner Everything from here to kingdom come. But they may not have enough authority or the time to destroy all p claims in their way. And the main thing will be claims. and during the beginning there may be Tons of heavy griefing and overall just Ass Hatterness, but how is that different that the regular first days of the start of a new world. Like most have already said, we will not know the full extent until it is at least tried.

If anything this could make more and more of the current players who yearn for PvE to fully appreciate the reason how it is and whatnot for the current PvP rules.
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby TheServant » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:04 am

joojoo1975 wrote:Though I agree that there will be people going out of their Way just to make this concept fail, I also feel that a lot of things have changed in the game that this might have a chance.

Granted there could be a village or 50 that will just decide to banner Everything from here to kingdom come. But they may not have enough authority or the time to destroy all p claims in their way. And the main thing will be claims. and during the beginning there may be Tons of heavy griefing and overall just Ass Hatterness, but how is that different that the regular first days of the start of a new world. Like most have already said, we will not know the full extent until it is at least tried.

If anything this could make more and more of the current players who yearn for PvE to fully appreciate the reason how it is and whatnot for the current PvP rules.


man, they will have it, its not a problem at all, as stated before, continent crossing sized claims already happened before, without pve. There WILL be people dedicated just to ruin your experience doing this with extra effort.

lakes blocked by small claims
crossed line of continent blocked
entire swamps/mountains claimed

didnt made any effort but there will be more sophisticated grieffing, i think you should focus aswell with the idea of ingame moderation from some PVE well reputed player, wont work otherwise.

joojoo1975 wrote:If anything this could make more and more of the current players who yearn for PvE to fully appreciate the reason how it is and whatnot for the current PvP rules.


well thats a good argument
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby bmjclark » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:11 am

Honestly part of me would love to see this just because it'd be really funny to aggressively grief the fuck out of the PVE continent.
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby rfxDarth » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:09 am

MightySheep wrote:+1 we shall name it the griefer continent where you get griefed by naked alts every day and cant do anything about it

it only works in games which have constant moderation

MightySheep wrote:+1 we shall name it the griefer continent where you get griefed by naked alts every day and cant do anything about it

it only works in games which have constant moderation


You still cannot do anything about it. It takes, like, at most a minute to make a naked alt. And if you kill one, you get hit by:

- Being unable to teleport for half an hour

- Unable to log out for a week

- Scents by which you can be tracked whenever you go

- Get harassed by nidbanes

Fucking awesome deal, 10/10, would self-moderate again
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