why you are retarded (and bald)

[SnuggleSnail]

There will come a breaking point where the pvp people will be finally fed up and move on to another game.
This is when the game will start thriving as the pve paradise

This already happened. My village lasted less than 3 days in 16.1. No PVPer I know has been excited for a new world since 14 or 15. The 16.1 changes were the last nail in the coffin, but things were already bad before that.

It didn't turn into a PVE paradise, tho. It's just a bad version of farmville where somebody who likes farmville but also like griefing will occasionally kill people who have no idea what they're doing + some programmers trying to make an rts

[Dawidio123]

With the non stop quality of life updates I would say they have given up on the pvp side of the game.

*Looks into the camera* Sir, there has been like 4-5 good qol changes in the last 5 years, and they all should've been made 15 years ago.

[azrid]

Haven as a pvp game is long over then. Why waste your breath trying to revive it.
You cant save the pvp game with good ideas and well thought out critique.
Bullying devs does even less. What hope do you have left?
I also dont see the game having a huge playerbase boost after pvp finally gets fixed.

You might not like it but the core playerbase of haven currently are the ones who enjoy the pve single player in their base while rarely going out for a walk.
The players that actually do play the game dont play it because they hate this type of game.
Also your continued farmville comparison is not good at all. Farmville is way more one dimensional than haven.

Im not surprised the handful of pvp people quit immediately when theres so many better pvp games out there.
How long will the same pvp people wait for the potential of haven pvp to be fulfilled? The smart ones gave up already.
The simple minded still linger and wait for something to happen when nothing ever happens.

Its fair to say the development of the game is going in the right direction to appease the current playerbase that enjoy the gameplay loop.

[azrid]

With the non stop quality of life updates I would say they have given up on the pvp side of the game.

*Looks into the camera* Sir, there has been like 4-5 good qol changes in the last 5 years, and they all should've been made 15 years ago.

You are just hard to please. A lot of people go nuts for a new bird.

[linkfanpc]

calling haven a survival game is kinda crazy an 8 year old could be good enough at haven to never die to PVE after like 1 casual week of practice

a comprehensive list of activities you need to master for survival:

• don't stand next to bears (unless you have high stats, then it's fine)
• don't swim (unless you have high stats or aren't retarded, then it's fine)
• maybe consider picking an apple off of a tree to eat occasionally

holy disingenuous to imply a good "survival" game is about survival. the point of survival games is getting past the "survival" part and into the adventure part and no other game compares to haven's "stuff you can do after you survive".

It's funny that everything you listed is not fun game mechanic

It's just a bad version of farmville

[dUmbins]

Haven is the best survival/crafting/sandbox game, in the same way that the best dish is the one that has the most ingredients, or the best book has the most words.

Random bloat and recycled ideas from ultima, et cetera, doth not a coherent experience make.

[magnet]

nah the survival crafting is dope and yall are just jaded oldheads

[SnuggleSnail]

If the crafting in haven were good there would be more than 1-2 villages with good industry per world. The only people who glaze haven's crafting have quality 27 anvils ,and a level 2 minehole. It's LARP.

[linkfanpc]

It's LARP.

EDIT: again, if you want to say haven's core gameplay is just larp bloat, name a game with a more fun/interesting survival/crafting progression. you can't, because you simply dont like survival crafting games.

[SnuggleSnail]

ur post about liking the system is larp, the system itself is just spreadsheets and mining