nerf boats

[SnuggleSnail]

Boats being a method of escape is fine

I can see that being a valid stance in hermit tier conflict, but in tryhard fights it's not something that "sometimes" happens, it's how literally every fight ends, and it also dictates half of the actual fight, too. Half of your squad not being allowed to fight because they have to sit on rowboats sucks, actually

The progress bar/hourglass thing should help prevent those problems, no?

no it would make water control stronger, as described above

surely there are better ways of handling this than makign a coracle as fast as a snekkja...

its been an annoying aspect of fighting for a long time that nobody rly likes for years, and nobody has given a better idea. The search for aesthetic perfection in the face of materially bad circumstances is evil or whatever

[azrid]

Im immediately griefing every village to have permanent speed debuff with a small safepali nearby them.

no u won't, people don't even bash roads in 99% of cases. "oh I'm gonna build a safe pali near you and make 2 chars and run them on a server forever to slow your horses by 33% in your village" shut the fuck up lmao

Why wouldnt I? Its a permanent debuff that you can't get rid off unless you siege.
Meanwhile you can just have a bot repair or build roads so bashing those is worthless.
You must have taken the stupid pill today because your ideas are stupid.
You are unable to see the simplest mistakes in your ideas.

[SnuggleSnail]

there are 200 more effective ways for you to grief me on naked alts that you're not doing

ppl were trying to argue that free roads, not free thingwalls, free roads, would be gamebreaking because *scary abstract griefy naked alt stuff*, yet they went 100x further than that and it's still fine.

anything can be scary if you're an anxiety riddled paranoid schizophrenic, but real people will not spend hours of their time + a bunch of compute costs to slow your horses by 30% in your village (and even if they did it'd be fine lol). You are LARPing. Like, the shit you're saying is so outlandishly silly that I'm embarrassed for believing that you're dumb instead of just trolling

[azrid]

I think theres a way simpler solution here by just adding more shallow crossings in map generation and going with mightysheeps and lunos idea.
Or going with even more extreme mapgen changes and creating larger unique zones with no rivers.

This really shows how their idea is so much better than yours Snail.
Their ideas fix is simple and easily achievable while yours just introduces annoying exploits.

[SnuggleSnail]

o you are just trolling

fair enough

[azrid]

You just happen to be wrong this time.
I want to believe you are not this stupid and this is just your pride not letting you admit a mistake.

Also if you are gonna claim theres 200 ways to grief you with alts you gotta name a few.
Because we just saw how you compared easily fixable roads to a permanent near unremovable speed debuff.

[Audiosmurf]

I want to believe you are not this stupid

Why?

[maze]

"nobody every will do this", says snail
snail then does the thing, "you are stupide for believing me"

[SnuggleSnail]

Břöthëř, if I have a palisade pushed up against your village you've got bigger issues than your horses being 30% slower

[maze]

Břöthëř, if I have a palisade pushed up against your village you've got bigger issues than your horses being 30% slower

I spent several days smashing a pvp group palisade until they started to show up to my walls with double the numbers, and same group that throwing bots on all my thingwalls, my gates, my roads.
guess I do have bigger problems, called numbers, bots, and the will to exploit game mechanics.

time to make haven into a private server experience.