Forager credo and bunny slippers in PVP

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Re: Forager credo and bunny slippers in PVP

Postby VDZ » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:23 pm

DonVelD wrote:if it aint broke dont fix it

But it is broke: Other footwear is unusable outside (without an autoswitch script) and every Forager-unrelated credo takes more quests to get than intended. Regardless of other possible criticisms against the bunny-chasing meta, those two elements are indisputably broken. And you can fix them while retaining the bunny-chasing meta, e.g. by moving those bonuses elsewhere.
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Re: Forager credo and bunny slippers in PVP

Postby DonVelD » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:35 pm

VDZ wrote:But it is broke: Other footwear is unusable outside (without an autoswitch script) and every Forager-unrelated credo takes more quests to get than intended. Regardless of other possible criticisms against the bunny-chasing meta, those two elements are indisputably broken. And you can fix them while retaining the bunny-chasing meta, e.g. by moving those bonuses elsewhere.

in that case that's not an issue with pvp but an issue with how the bonuses are introduced. frankly, i dont care about missing out on other shoes, and the AC with all the armor & bunny slippers is good enough, while steel boots 24/7 feels bad. sure you need to do a credo but its the most basic one & its low effort. could it be better? yes. is it enough to warrant a change over other broken stuff in the whole game? no. would the convencience be worth the risk of them fucking up pvp? no.

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Re: Forager credo and bunny slippers in PVP

Postby Audiosmurf » Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:03 pm

Isn't the most elegant solution just to make it so the bonus doesn't apply in combat?
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Re: Forager credo and bunny slippers in PVP

Postby Clemins » Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:07 pm

This thread is wack lol
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Re: Forager credo and bunny slippers in PVP

Postby DonVelD » Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:07 pm

Audiosmurf wrote:Isn't the most elegant solution just to make it so the bonus doesn't apply in combat?

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Re: Forager credo and bunny slippers in PVP

Postby VDZ » Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:12 pm

Audiosmurf wrote:Isn't the most elegant solution just to make it so the bonus doesn't apply in combat?

There are people who feel very attached to the current meta and don't want it to change.

But I'm pretty sure everybody does hate the credo and bunny slippers being mandatory, and would at least prefer if those same bonuses didn't require taking Forager credo and always wearing bunny slippers (with the meta otherwise remaining the same).
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Re: Forager credo and bunny slippers in PVP

Postby Clemins » Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:27 pm

Bunny slippers can go, speed boosts from critters is fine, apply bunnyslipper speed bonus to something else, done

No reworks you silly willys

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Re: Forager credo and bunny slippers in PVP

Postby wonder-ass » Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:51 pm

u don't even need to finish the credo. I think it takes me like roughly 2 hours? to get to speed buff. IMO credos should be linear and not random.
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Re: Forager credo and bunny slippers in PVP

Postby Dawidio123 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:57 pm

wonder-ass wrote:u don't even need to finish the credo. I think it takes me like roughly 2 hours? to get to speed buff. IMO credos should be linear and not random.

Tbh, it's an easy credo, i can do it with no issues (unless the rng fucks me and even then it's not more than a day). But if it wasn't for the speed boost i wouldn't do it. Fuck em, credos are bad.
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Re: Forager credo and bunny slippers in PVP

Postby vatas » Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:54 pm

Forager credo and bunny slippers are a low bar for entry to be viable PvP escape runner, but the problem is how you communicate this to a new player (outside tutorial video or other player instructing?)
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