Remove local pools

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Re: Remove local pools

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sat May 31, 2025 4:03 am

goes kinda hard how every time I see a layman on this forum glazing a potential anti-botting measure it's something I could get around in like 30 minutes or an hour even tho I'm a mid coder at best

you know why nobody is botting edels or boletes rn? because nobody gives a fuck.
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Re: Remove local pools

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Sat May 31, 2025 4:09 am

You've bitched for years about how broken and OP Truffles are. Care to show us your bot that safely scoops up tons of provinces and can be made early enough in the world that it isn't dead?

I think not. You're a big bag of air. You like to boast to hide your insecurities. Real sad, tbh.
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Re: Remove local pools

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sat May 31, 2025 4:14 am

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truffles aren't rly op anymore unless you're eating @ 33% hunger btw
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Re: Remove local pools

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Sat May 31, 2025 4:52 am

Wow my bot is so much cooler and it also totally works like I just described above - 1)Safely (from PvP), farms snugglesnail truffles, unsupervised, unlimited provinces to bypass local pooling.

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I'm not a poser who is pretending to have done something I haven't.
My image really proves I can do exactly what the text describes. :D

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But yeah, I agree truffles really aren't that strong rn.
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Re: Remove local pools

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sat May 31, 2025 5:05 am

same energy as a crystal salesman on facebook explaining to a doctor why antibiotics are fake
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Re: Remove local pools

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Sat May 31, 2025 5:08 am

SnuggleSnail wrote:same energy as a crystal salesman on facebook explaining to a doctor why antibiotics are fake


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Re: Remove local pools

Postby Nightdawg » Sat May 31, 2025 7:57 am

Whoever thinks the anti-botting measures jorb added do anything, besides make mechanics cancerous for non-botters while making bots more powerful, is mentally retarded.

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Re: Remove local pools

Postby OIchi » Sat May 31, 2025 9:13 am

Nightdawg wrote:Whoever thinks the anti-botting measures jorb added do anything, besides make mechanics cancerous for non-botters while making bots more powerful, is mentally retarded.

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But they definitively do something and yes they reduce botting overall. No one is botting for edels or boletes, partly because of it.
Since you can't easily get huge amounts of it and it's not essential, it made it so simply nobody cares about it.
If you care enough for something you'll go around any anti-botting measure, but if there are easier to get substitutes you'll use them instead.
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Re: Remove local pools

Postby DonVelD » Sat May 31, 2025 10:14 am

i hecking love making the game boring
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Re: Remove local pools

Postby Dawidio123 » Sat May 31, 2025 5:34 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:Image

truffles aren't rly op anymore unless you're eating @ 33% hunger btw

Honestly i haven't considered the fep/hunger ratio increasing because you wouldn't catch my ass doing that humiliation ritual lmao. Truffles shouldn't be a reason to keep local pools tho, no matter if op or not. They should be given pepper-treatment with some wound stacking and that's that, bad mechanic dead, and no longer a reason to keep local pools.

Also damn, who gives a fuck about pearls or edels, it's literally just lp, you are not doubling my uac/melee and you are not raising quality of anything by having a bit more lp because of how easy it already is to keep up. I feel like people wouldn't even study pearls long-term because of how annoying it'd be to refill everyday, and guess what, early game, as in when they're the most impactful, they are fucking plentiful because local pools are still not fucked, we got dozens of edels in the first few days with just one guy getting the 1600 early and going to a mountain every now and then. So it actually would make them more balanced if you yeeted the local pools and just made them less common, because if your ass wants a lp advantage your ass can get an lp advantage when it matters the most (it doesn't matter tho, you can just quest too who gives a shit AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA)

And this whole "trade with hermits bcs of local pools :whyy:" is a huge cope robbie, local pools incentivize murdering everyone around you from a pragmatic point of view. I get that your hermit slaves fantasy resurged after being in a cave for half a year, but hermits are unable to compete with factions in production regardless of the local pools. You make shit obnoxiously hard to get and you hope people who don't really care about the game for the most part (honestly good for them) and play for a few hours here and there are gonna get them to trade with you? Honestly getting those things shouldn't be something incentivized for hermits let those sorry fucks enjoy the game instead of slaving away at a humiliation ritual just so the big boy might give him a literal stick+stone he took from some random stockpile in exchange. Having slaves shouldn't be the intended gameplay loop, slavery bad.
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