Combat Theorycraft Thread (meaningful class interactions)

[Ozzy124]

try to pvp

But have you ever tried pvp? Can you log on the main account? I have never fucking heard about you until today, how can you talk about pvp when u have never done it?

Ozzy walked in a straight line towards the aiming archer in that gif, he had tree's right by him to utilize los, that gif is only proof of his stupidity.

I havent played hafen at all, i havent played much world (just the first weeks) and I had no idea bows are THAT op. We had some mlg ql metal and I thought my armor would never get penetrated by 20 mms archer lol

[Ronin30]

fair enough, i would have done the same thing honestly. Now we know

[mietzi94]

try to pvp

But have you ever tried pvp? Can you log on the main account? I have never fucking heard about you until today, how can you talk about pvp when u have never done it?

Ozzy walked in a straight line towards the aiming archer in that gif, he had tree's right by him to utilize los, that gif is only proof of his stupidity.

I havent played hafen at all, i havent played much world (just the first weeks) and I had no idea bows are THAT op. We had some mlg ql metal and I thought my armor would never get penetrated by 20 mms archer lol

Yes i tried pvp. Sorry that you never heard of me ive never rly done pvp before Hafen. Wich does not even matter at all. Its still fun how u are acting when i say your way of thinking is not the same as mine and doesnt seem that good. Just because i wasnt active in the Forums that much in previous worlds etc. Doesnt mean ive never done pvp. You should probably change your way of thinking. Played an Archer last world and this world and i did ranged and melee pvp. I agree that it might need a little nerf but in the other Hand i disagree.

For example: 97 mm 97 Perception ATM still missing 3 arrows in full bar. Seems kinda retarded.

Second point: your Charakter had such low con and probably some wounds. So a sting would have done the job AS well tbh. And by seeing your combat deck in that Video it would have been possible to get one through.

[Glorthan]

Archery just got a big nerf with rideable horses. It's almost impossible to 1v1 someone with archery now if both people have horses. Faster moving targets means much, much harder to hit, if the opponent has a basic idea of how to avoid. They'll probably still have their place in big fights, but it will be rare/in small numbers. I think the only place archers will be particularly good is boat combat, where melee will probably be about as useful as archers are on horses, but with horses you won't need to rely on boats as much. Obviously, until it's tested, it's hard to know how it will play out exactly.

[MightySheep]

try to pvp

I have never fucking heard about you until today, how can you talk about pvp when u have never done it?

https://youtu.be/mYmgx3jGfuo?t=1296

I trust mietzy knows more about archery in PvP than the guy who didnt even know not to run in straight line against it. You should try practicing in spars then you see archery is not so OP if you dont run like an idiot into the enemy archer.

It is like the equivalent of somebody dying to a chop then complaining on forum that it is OP when they didnt even know to how put up defences.

[Ozzy124]

A quick video about archery being op

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytnLMY9 ... e=youtu.be

Made with shit q bow(20ish) shit q arrows (20ish) shit marks,perc and top ql armor on the other char.


@MightySHit

the video you sent just proves how op is archery LOL, he one shot the guy that was swimming the river right? Isnt that too op for you? lol

[bmjclark]

-> Run straight at person pointing bow at you with 0 coins so you couldnt do anything anyways
-> call other people shit

Not that i think MM isn't OP

[Ozzy124]

I turned at him and was running in a straight line for like 1 second, you can literally see the cooldown timer and calculate it from the gif LOL.

[Astarisk]

why are ppl trying to say archers are op all of a sudden just because we dont fuck up our own horses when we shoot?

I dont think anyone is disagreeing that the one shot needs to go

arrows typically dont 1 shot if you actually have armor and constitution, if you are trying to argue that newbies shouldnt be so easy to kill then that is a wider topic than just archery, swords 1 shot people too you know

Hah, made me chuckle a bit. I can attest that at the end of last world, with around 450shp~ (that's about 200 con iirc), an arrow almost completely wrecked my entire shp, I managed to get away with about 20~shp left, this was in a world where I had armor from the metal mess up. A fully invested fighter with 200UA/300MC, almost died to a guy who was so minimally invested.

Likewise, this world I prob have more con than 90% of the population, decent metal armor, and my friend is still able to one shot (and he just died two days ago!). Pretty much, bow damage is way over the top, and it makes PvP pretty toxic at the moment.

edit: At the end, when I finally died last world. It took something like 3 stings from a sword to finally drop me. (I might have even lived then, but I hadn't fully recovered my entire shp from that earlier shot).

[mietzi94]

I dont See why shooting someone in the water is op.. The Person was hurt a lot and as i said i had above 80mm and 80 perc at this Moment pvp bow and pvp arrows. The damage might be too high. But he would have drowned with an 100 arrow as well