one continent pve only

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Re: one continent pve only

Postby Valgar » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:25 pm

rfxDarth wrote:I feel like this is half-measure of a half-measure. The existing playerbase, through natural selection, evolved into the kind of people who go out of their way to screw everyone over irregardless of game mechanics, and they would definitely come to such continent specifically to grief other people and camp out in the sea to kill anyone who dares to get out. I feel like even disabling PVP entirely in the whole world might not be enough, and the only way to turn this around would be active moderation and frequent interventions from developers, which is unlikely to ever happen.


Jorb & Loftar perfectly know their point of view about PVP situation is outdated, that can't be otherwise it's obvious, but they also know they need to moderate the world if they want a PVE world and that will be a terrible work at start.

Put the PVE server for Subscription buyers only + Validated account.
Hire a moderation team.
Spank some griefers asses (I know Jorb and loftar would love that).

A griefer is like an unruly child asking for some sort of interest. Just give him a good spank and he and all his mates will not try this again.
If the players know they will be spanked when griefing, they will not try it and Jorb & Loftar will get the money with minimal moderation afterwards.
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby jock » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:28 pm

Valgar wrote:
rfxDarth wrote:I feel like this is half-measure of a half-measure. The existing playerbase, through natural selection, evolved into the kind of people who go out of their way to screw everyone over irregardless of game mechanics, and they would definitely come to such continent specifically to grief other people and camp out in the sea to kill anyone who dares to get out. I feel like even disabling PVP entirely in the whole world might not be enough, and the only way to turn this around would be active moderation and frequent interventions from developers, which is unlikely to ever happen.


Jorb & Loftar perfectly know their point of view about PVP situation is outdated, but they also know they need to moderate the world if they want a PVE world and that will be a terrible work at start.

Put the PVE server for Subscription buyers only + Validated account.
Hire a moderation team.
Spank some griefers asses (I know Jorb and loftar would love that).

A griefer is like an unruly child asking for some sort of interest. Just give him a good spank and he and all his mates will not try this again.
If the players know they will be spanked when griefing, they will not try it and Jorb & Loftar will get the money with minimal moderation afterwards.



They would be smarter to offer hosting for pve worlds and charge players to run them and moderate themselves.
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby Valgar » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:34 pm

I understand people want sort of private servers, but honestly, I'm not a fan of a MMO style played on servers of 10-50 players.
And the player moderation is often hard if they don't agree with you.
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby Melotis » Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:15 pm

I love how all the greifers love to cry about things which I've never seen happen and even if they did, they are still far less daunting than perma-death.
This game has an oddly toxic component to it's player base.
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby The_Lich_King » Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:51 pm

Melotis wrote:I love how all the greifers love to cry about things which I've never seen happen and even if they did, they are still far less daunting than perma-death.
This game has an oddly toxic component to it's player base.


You are new is why you have never seen them happening. Alt farming scents for Nidbanes in W9, Alt-blocking and all of the other complaints about no pvp are very extremely real in this game... that being said i am down for a no pvp continent just to see if we see that level of griefing or not.
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby DonVelD » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:11 pm

Melotis wrote:I love how all the greifers love to cry about things which I've never seen happen and even if they did, they are still far less daunting than perma-death.
This game has an oddly toxic component to it's player base.

.... you started playing in november, youre a literal fetus - babies aren't supposed to talk because misa can hear them from miles away

(you seem oddly confident while being clueless as fuck, a retard in the making)
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby sMartins » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:18 pm

If only he knew Misa ... He would be more cautious ...
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby MightySheep » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:11 pm

The trolls and griefers want a pve continent even more than the pve players lol

Pve players so lacking imagination

Off the top of my head: lure someone into a bee or beaver dungeon then just log in alts to block the exit and leave them logged in forever, the character either has to suicide trying to solo the dungeon or log out forever and hope the troll gets bored

Im guessing jorb and loftar dont want to deal with whiny PMs every day
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby joojette1992 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:17 pm

th1s is kewl idea :3 pvp wurld iz d4ng3r0us!!! XD
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Re: one continent pve only

Postby Kaios » Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:30 pm

I'm not disagreeing that there are plenty of ways to grief in this game but alt blocking (or body blocking in general) would be one of the easiest issues to solve by letting players pass through each other. I don't think it would really be a big deal on a PvE world/server if players ignored other player hit boxes.
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