Bots, lets talk about them.

[Kaios]

Right. You are ignoring all of my points tho so idk what other conclusions you want people to draw other than you are actually bad.

[LadyGoo]

Right. You are ignoring all of my points tho so idk what other conclusions you want people to draw other than you are actually bad.

You are blinded by your hatred, so you have turned the whole thread into "I hate Badich and Dis, cry-cry"

[Kaios]

How? Because I don't believe you'd stop botting even if the mechanics were changed? Do you honestly think they are going to change farming and other menial tasks to the point where everything about them is automated and you don't have any input at all? They are never going to do that and you or someone in your village are going to continue doing things like cheese factories and thousand mile farms so why the hell should anyone believe a change in mechanics will stop you?

[LadyGoo]

*facepalm*

[Granger]

Kaios, LadyGoo,

either both of you are sitting together with some beers and having a laugh while you inflate your postcounts, or you two are currentlyinn an negative feedback echo chamber.

I suggest you both actively ignore each other for a day, to break the recursion.
Currently you are doing this:

[Amanda44]

^^ I almost posted yesterday but Kaios had already walked away from the situation so I thought it best to leave it ... we all have our moments.

[Avu]

So on page four I suggest randomly banning obvious botters as a deterrent for botting. Ladygoo also suggest banning russian IPs probably sarcastically but who knows and then she proceeds to treat her own statement as made by everyone else and defend the poor oppressed russian/eastern slavic group and nobody fucking calls her on it. Are you all idiots? This is professional victimhood at its best. I want botters banned. If they happen to be russian and they get banned I want them banned for botting not for being russian. Botting is not a fucking cultural russian attribute to get offended over or is it? Jesus fuck.

[Darruin]

I can't believe I just wasted my time reading through all of this. This thread needs some serious pruning (not lock, I think it's an important thread). It should be a discussion discussing the problems and possible solutions, not insinuating racism or going off on these crazy tangents.

[Amanda44]

So on page four I suggest randomly banning obvious botters as a deterrent for botting. Ladygoo also suggest banning russian IPs probably sarcastically but who knows and then she proceeds to treat her own statement as made by everyone else and defend the poor oppressed russian/eastern slavic group and nobody fucking calls her on it. Are you all idiots? This is professional victimhood at its best. I want botters banned. If they happen to be russian and they get banned I want them banned for botting not for being russian. Botting is not a fucking cultural russian attribute to get offended over or is it? Jesus fuck.

On page 3, I suggest the exact same thing, I suspect LG reacted to your comment because she feels you hate all Russians, I'm not sure why, though I have seen it joked about, that is something that has happened or been said that I'm not aware of. I was still going to comment even though it was obvious her comment was a dig but Kaios got in first and so I decided not to.

When Kaios then did call her out on it, she insisted things had been said in IRC about Russian IP's being banned, again, I wasn't there so I don't know what was said and I'm certainly not going to defend that line of view - as you say botting is universal.
They then proceed to get into an argument which it's difficult to interject in as they are both at fault through getting heated. Alay is deflecting the focus away from her group and Kaios loses the higher ground by using a bot ... no matter how much or how little.

I don't think we are all idiots it was just an awkward situation which was difficult to intervene in.

Thankfully Kaios remedied the situation by deciding to do what was needed and walk away from it.

And yes, I'd like to see botters punished in some way as well, I do believe it acts as a deterrent and is preferable to just ignoring it when this is a competitive game with permadeath. I think outright bans for blatant abuse such as whole villages being run on bots and maybe warnings for lesser usage, leading to bans if they ignore it.

[Avu]

I've botted some farming before I stopped playing and a couple of days of soil leveling (which is nothing compared to the amount of dirt I hand dug before). Thing is it is the sane thing to do. Botting right now is basically legal and that is the problem.

As for Goo it's quite simple at least in her head I'm from same town as Burg and have been known on occasion to agree with him and Burg has been in the same town as Klaue back in world 2 when he decided to kill all russians to make the lag better thus I am evil and hate all russians or something. That and a shared history of ingame antagonism. Truth be told I do believe many of their players behave in antisocial ways and I have stated as much. Goo chooses to take it personally which I don't particularly care usually. And then you get thread derails about it.