one continent pve only

[joojoo1975]

th1s is kewl idea :3 pvp wurld iz d4ng3r0us!!! XD

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[Sevenless]

I'm not disagreeing that there are plenty of ways to grief in this game but alt blocking (or body blocking in general) would be one of the easiest issues to solve by letting players pass through each other. I don't think it would really be a big deal on a PvE world/server if players ignored other player hit boxes.

There are lots of ways to make the game less griefer prone. But it's a pretty chunky list of changes needed. And even then, it'd still take moderation. Which is fine, if the devs want to do that by all means. It's just not an easy or quick fix.

What I'm bashing is simply just turning off player's ability to aggro each other. That'd be a shitshow. Intentionally devving towards it is another story.

[karabamov]

th1s is kewl idea :3 pvp wurld iz d4ng3r0us!!! XD

Funniest thing when pvp'ers try to come off as tough and manly even though we all know they're just a bunch of dorks.

[MightySheep]

pvp players are just a bunch of losers and nerds they should get a life

[Valgar]

Off the top of my head: lure someone into a bee or beaver dungeon then just log in alts to block the exit and leave them logged in forever, the character either has to suicide trying to solo the dungeon or log out forever and hope the troll gets bored

And can be easily done in a PVP world too.
Like Kaois said, disabling players hitboxes can help and easy to do, or not allowing non Validated/Sub account to play on this server.


Harvesting Flax fields or mining isn't really considered hardcore.
Combat on Haven is a piece of shit that doesn't require any special hardcore training, just being a pro water chugger and good at cookie clicker (on PvE all is cheesing).

I don't think H&H is played as an hardcore game, everything is botted, there is near to zero human labor in faction villages. Nope hardcore players aren't on H&H, or possibly some veteran hermits are without any bots and if you ask them how game is they will certainly say "Chores...chores..."

[DonVelD]

i agree with mightysheep theres no way they are real people

[Kaios]

What I'm bashing is simply just turning off player's ability to aggro each other. That'd be a shitshow. Intentionally devving towards it is another story.

That’s understandable, I’m not exactly in favour of the idea either but I do think people are overestimating the lengths that most go to grief someone in particular. There are very few players that would actually put in the time and effort to do something as autistic as like, chop down every tree for example. There really is nothing stopping someone from doing that now if they so desired.

It might be possible to have various world states such as flipping the state of the world or specific provinces between peacetime, wartime, or some other variations that would change/effect the interactions between players. Could last some predetermined amount of time or could change based on certain player actions.

Sure it could certainly end up being a bad idea but I think it might be kind of interesting to provide a time where one could prepare for a siege on someone for example during peacetime in preparation for a battle in wartime. Sort of like giving each side some time to prepare rather than all of the sudden there’s a village and walls and siege machinery outside and you’re being sieged the next day.

pvp players are just a bunch of losers and nerds they should get a life

true and real

[MightySheep]

Off the top of my head: lure someone into a bee or beaver dungeon then just log in alts to block the exit and leave them logged in forever, the character either has to suicide trying to solo the dungeon or log out forever and hope the troll gets bored

And can be easily done in a PVP world too.
Like Kaois said, disabling players hitboxes can help and easy to do, or not allowing non Validated/Sub account to play on this server.

it cant "easily" be done in pvp because naked alts can be pushed and killed by anybody, and a pvp fight requires being able to pvp and risking main, a lot easier to troll with alts, baiting ppl would be way easier in pve too

sure like sevenless said if you start invented all kinds of dev solutions u can solve a lot of things, certainly disabling player hitboxes type of change cause a lot of random unforseen issues and exploits

wurm pve server is a good case study cuz the game is actually designed for pve and the systems all developed that way and yet it still needs incredibly hands on moderation

I don't think H&H is played as an hardcore game, everything is botted, there is near to zero human labor in faction villages.

Suddenly i regret wasting my time responding to u like a normal human being, ur 1 of those ppl ive still never seen a bot other than the 1 irongete uses to update market prices and ive been inside 4-5 faction villages this world

[Valgar]

Do you qualify H&H as an hardcore game or more a chores game ?

Veterans aren't hardcore, they just have the knowledge. Ever seen hardcores leaving after 2 month of gameplay ?
You got the knowledge, you can do it, that will just take you time.
Your got more people with you ? You can form a village, then a Realm possibly.
You know some exploits & bugs ? You can be a bit better and evolve a bit faster.
You're exploiting as much as you can ? You are an exploiter, not an hardcore gamer.

Even if you're triggered by the fact botting isn't like people think it is (bots/scouts/labor drones, multi alts combat, etc), the meta of this game is all about exploiting. This game in the current state can't be considered as an hardcore game, it's just a punishing chores game.
And I'm proud to not be a bot user like an abnormal human being I am and playing the game as devs dreamed we will (or mostly).

[MightySheep]

lmao so much yapping, the most extreme case of coping for being bad at video game ive seen