Progressive content system on new world

[SnuggleSnail]

In retrospect you guys are right about weekly being a bad idea, since it would consistently fall on days that are bad for some people.

day 3 = minehole lv2
day 10 = minehole lv3, snekkjas, steel
day 20 = minehole lv4, knarrs
day 30 = minehole lv5
day 40 = minehole lv6, trolls, bone clay
day 50 = minehole lv7, cave conch
day 60 = minehole lv8, orcas
day 70 = minehole lv9, realms, whales

Pro tip for the nabs: if Jorbtar goes through with above for the first 40-50 days demand for anyQ silk will probably exceed supply for fractionbois

[ChildhoodObesity]

day 3 = minehole lv2
day 10 = minehole lv3, snekkjas, steel
day 20 = minehole lv4, knarrs
day 30 = minehole lv5
day 40 = minehole lv6, trolls, bone clay
day 50 = minehole lv7, cave conch
day 60 = minehole lv8, orcas
day 70 = minehole lv9, realms, whales

On the actual timings for this mechanic, I think this 7 day timeframe from the op seems pretty good for mineholes. EDIT: AFTER CAREFUL CONSIDERATION WITH MY FRIEND CHILDHOODOBESITY13 WE HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE ABOVE TIMES ARE THE PERFECT VALUES. Realms and whales are so fundamentally broken that they need to be reworked before they can be accurately scaled on this though.

i cant believe youve done this

[Sevenless]

Question: Aren't realms a source of pvp and social content? Why would delaying realms 2-3 months be beneficial for world longevity?

If it's the impact of buffs I feel like allowing realms earlier, and then progressively unlocking the max level of buffs over time would satisfy that concern.

[SnuggleSnail]

Question: Aren't realms a source of pvp

No. Not even slightly. There were 3 realm fights this world, I think? Some days we had 3 fights just from calling people faggots at their wall. Also realms suck and should be removed from the game.

[VDZ]

As for noob traps, curios aren't really an issue as you don't really cause harm by studying the wrong curios - you just miss out on potential gains. But if you eat the wrong foods you wreck your hunger, which makes it exponentially harder to gain stats (eating at 300% is 9 times as efficient as eating at 100%). The problem lies not with the existence of bad foods, but the hunger system punishing players so hard for eating them. If like with the curio system it merely caused you to miss out on potential gains it wouldn't be a big issue.

[Nightdawg]

As for noob traps, curios aren't really an issue as you don't really cause harm by studying the wrong curios - you just miss out on potential gains. But if you eat the wrong foods you wreck your hunger, which makes it exponentially harder to gain stats (eating at 300% is 9 times as efficient as eating at 100%). The problem lies not with the existence of bad foods, but the hunger system punishing players so hard for eating them. If like with the curio system it merely caused you to miss out on potential gains it wouldn't be a big issue.

In both cases you waste time, that is the trap.

With curios you waste hours studying crap which you could've used to study curios that gave you 8 times more LP.

With hunger you waste hours waiting for the hunger to go back to 300%. Good food affects your hunger too.

In the same amount of time you could either gain 10.000LP or 80.000LP, the same way you could wait for 10 hours for your hunger to go back down after gaining 5 str from shit food or 50 str from good food. The hunger you gained translates into time you wait for it to replenish. They're the same.

[VDZ]

As for noob traps, curios aren't really an issue as you don't really cause harm by studying the wrong curios - you just miss out on potential gains. But if you eat the wrong foods you wreck your hunger, which makes it exponentially harder to gain stats (eating at 300% is 9 times as efficient as eating at 100%). The problem lies not with the existence of bad foods, but the hunger system punishing players so hard for eating them. If like with the curio system it merely caused you to miss out on potential gains it wouldn't be a big issue.

In both cases you waste time, that is the trap.

With curios you waste hours studying crap which you could've used to study curios that gave you 8 times more LP.

With hunger you waste hours waiting for the hunger to go back to 300%. Good food affects your hunger too.

In the same amount of time you could either gain 10.000LP or 80.000LP, the same way you could wait for 10 hours for your hunger to go back down after gaining 5 str from shit food or 50 str from good food. The hunger you gained translates into time you wait for it to replenish. They're the same.

It takes over 5.5 days to go from the the edge of 100% (near the 150% border) to the edge of 300% (which in itself is still not 300%, you need to get a bit into 300% to make use of it). To recover the full bar of 300% takes another 8 days. It takes two weeks of eating absolutely nothing to recover from ruining your hunger.

If you've been studying the wrong curios for a week and someone tells you what you're doing wrong, you can just switch over to the right curios and the damage is limited to '(optimal gain - what you gained) * time you did it wrong', and the fix is to just play better from now on. On the other hand, if you've been eating wrong, it's often faster to literally kill yourself and start over than to try to recover. And that's just completely absurd.

[terechgracz]

In both cases you waste time, that is the trap.

Lets remove curios and feps and make passive LP and attribute gain for everyone.

[ZoddAlmighty]

In both cases you waste time, that is the trap.

Lets remove curios and feps and make passive LP and attribute gain for everyone.

That is a really bad idea.

[iamahh]

W13's big Iron Ore Gate is one hell of a gate... I tunneled "half" my continent, very few Iron Ore... Black Ore is harder to find than Gold & Silver... I found zero Black Ore, but got a decent amount of G&S... meteor, whales, trolls, mammoths, I won't even dream of