P2P plan

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Re: P2P plan

Postby jorb » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:29 am

powlius wrote:I would like more info, because I wouldn't like the idea of paying for game which world will be reset. (Or did I missed something?)


Apologies for the inconvenience with paypal. Getting the store in better shape is a priority.

We have a fundamental ambition to give permanence to player actions, for which reason we certainly want to avoid arbitrary map resets. That being said, we aren't entirely satisfied with what the map generator spits out yet (and arguably we will never be), and we also do not know what imbalances the present setup, and our continual changes of it, will introduce, which may at some point necessitate a new world. It is under any circumstance not something we take lightly.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby crymoer » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:39 am

Am i right that if I buy 1 month of GameTime (15$) I will get 720h added to my account ? And if I will play for example 2h per day on average its like 360 days ? A whole year ? That's 1.25$per month ? Cheap as f%$^ :D
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Re: P2P plan

Postby Archiplex » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:42 am

crymoer wrote:Am i right that if I buy 1 month of GameTime (15$) I will get 720h added to my account ? And if I will play for example 2h per day on average its like 360 days ? A whole year ? That's 1.25$per month ? Cheap as f%$^ :D


No, if you buy 1 month of gametime, you have a single month where you can play as much as you want any day. At the end of the month, it's back to free account. Meaning that even if you only play for 1 hour, at the end of the month it's done.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby painhertz » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:42 am

crymoer wrote:Am i right that if I buy 1 month of GameTime (15$) I will get 720h added to my account ? And if I will play for example 2h per day on average its like 360 days ? A whole year ? That's 1.25$per month ? Cheap as f%$^ :D


if you pay the $15.00 you play however much the hell you want for that month. if you were somehow able to play 24 hours a day you can play 24 hours a day for 30 days. by the same token you can do the same for a $10.00 subscription. the $15.00 option gives you a tradable token ala' PLEX n Eve Online.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby jorb » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:43 am

crymoer wrote:Am i right that if I buy 1 month of GameTime (15$) I will get 720h added to my account ? And if I will play for example 2h per day on average its like 360 days ? A whole year ? That's 1.25$per month ? Cheap as f%$^ :D


No. One month of game time is essentially the same as a one month subscription once added to your account. The advantage of game time over a subscription is that you can give it to someone else. Scroll down to the bottom of the page to notice that a one month subscription is currently priced at $10/month, going as low as $6/month for a full year.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby Archiplex » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:50 am

jorb wrote:
crymoer wrote:Am i right that if I buy 1 month of GameTime (15$) I will get 720h added to my account ? And if I will play for example 2h per day on average its like 360 days ? A whole year ? That's 1.25$per month ? Cheap as f%$^ :D


No. One month of game time is essentially the same as a one month subscription once added to your account. The advantage of game time over a subscription is that you can give it to someone else. Scroll down to the bottom of the page to notice that a one month subscription is currently priced at $10/month, going as low as $6/month for a full year.


Are the tokens dropped on death or are they defaulted back to you in any way? (I cannot wait to see some hilarious bandit stealing a month of premium if that's true)

Also, unrelated but I want to see if you will be fixing the pathing stuff currently used for hunting as seen in my hunting thread viewtopic.php?f=40&t=40603
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Re: P2P plan

Postby Óðinn » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:51 am

They are dropped. That's the reason people are going around griefing people if they don't pay them gametime.

I can't wait for the lawsuit done by the mom of a player who got extorted via skype to spend 300+ per month on gametime for players that could fuck that player up.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby Antioch » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:53 am

jorb wrote:
crymoer wrote:Am i right that if I buy 1 month of GameTime (15$) I will get 720h added to my account ? And if I will play for example 2h per day on average its like 360 days ? A whole year ? That's 1.25$per month ? Cheap as f%$^ :D


No. One month of game time is essentially the same as a one month subscription once added to your account. The advantage of game time over a subscription is that you can give it to someone else. Scroll down to the bottom of the page to notice that a one month subscription is currently priced at $10/month, going as low as $6/month for a full year.


Ohw for the love of god make them the same price.

People buying game time to sell ingame to others is something you want to encourage as dev, not hinder by making it overall more expensive.

how the fuck do you not realize these things? How much thought did you put into this payment system?
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Re: P2P plan

Postby crymoer » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:02 pm

6$ for a month only if we will pay for whole year. As for casual I am not sure if I will be still playing this game year from now. So for me it will be 10$ per month and its too much for game in this state. Still I hope you will find best business model for you to get paid for your hard work and to keep stable player base that will keep game alive.

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Re: P2P plan

Postby Amanda44 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:06 pm

The majority of ppl are unhappy about it for one reason or another, myself included, but the devs have already said they will discuss, review and revise ... can't we all just wait now and see what they come up with before continuing on with pages of the same thing?

Take your mind off it while they decide what to do and use your free time to get reacquainted with the game, we can all come back and moan, if still needed, after their decision. :)
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