Altvaulting: Stealing from Hearthfires

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Re: Altvaulting: Stealing from Hearthfires

Postby Vaku » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:32 am

TeckXKnight wrote:A formalized form of protecting items such as hard stealthed item caches


I think another way of going at this, to make it a tad more balanced, would be to use the Offline Character's Stealth Stat as a way of mitigating HOW much of the inventory the thief can see. Wouldn't that be neat? :D

Stealth would finally be useful to non-menacing characters.
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Re: Altvaulting: Stealing from Hearthfires

Postby Granger » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:49 am

Bad idea, because then you can look into the fire and in case you find combat gear in the inventory you can loot that and then wait for the character to login to slaughter a defenseless one with only tsacks in the hands to club you with.

If your enemies hide behind walls then break them to get to them....
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Re: Altvaulting: Stealing from Hearthfires

Postby LadyGoo » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:51 am

Granger wrote:Bad idea, because then you can look into the fire and in case you find combat gear in the inventory you can loot that and then wait for the character to login to slaughter a defenseless one with only tsacks in the hands to club you with.

If your enemies hide behind walls then break them to get to them....


What if a perpetrator could peak inside of a hearthfire and take the stuff inside of a hearthling's inventory (not equipment or study slots)?

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Re: Altvaulting: Stealing from Hearthfires

Postby Vaku » Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:33 am

Granger wrote:in case you find combat gear in the inventory you can loot that


The suggestion is strictly for Items in the "Bag" part of your inventory, and NOT items in the Equipment Slots, and NOT items in the Study Window.

Thereby, this is not the equivalent to knocking-out the target w/o a fight.
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Re: Altvaulting: Stealing from Hearthfires

Postby shubla » Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:34 am

You can build hf hidden in cave or something.
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Re: Altvaulting: Stealing from Hearthfires

Postby ekzarh » Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:39 pm

Vote up.
I'm also disappointed that you guard a ram for 24h to just get nothing.
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Re: Altvaulting: Stealing from Hearthfires

Postby Avu » Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:22 pm

Poor poor raiders game is booming with players and the poor raiders are in distress.
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Re: Altvaulting: Stealing from Hearthfires

Postby LadyGoo » Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:52 pm

Does rich and lucky Avu has anything valuable and constructive to say on the matter? 8-)
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Re: Altvaulting: Stealing from Hearthfires

Postby Granger » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:01 pm

LadyGoo wrote:
Granger wrote:Bad idea, because then you can look into the fire and in case you find combat gear in the inventory you can loot that and then wait for the character to login to slaughter a defenseless one with only tsacks in the hands to club you with.

If your enemies hide behind walls then break them to get to them....


What if a perpetrator could peak inside of a hearthfire and take the stuff inside of a hearthling's inventory (not equipment or study slots)?


My point was that it happens that people (at least on characters that are not only PvP alts) logout in inventory expanded mode (with tsacks equipped) at times, and not with the combat gear they have on them being equipped.

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Re: Altvaulting: Stealing from Hearthfires

Postby LadyGoo » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:23 pm

First of all, characters of multi-use do not store their armor inside of their inventory. They put it inside of cupboards/hang on walls (that happened when R'lyeh got raided).
Secondly, anyone who logs in while their village is being raided is dead regardless they have a shield or not. Maybe that is because it takes a few seconds to load, who knows?
Thirdly, no-one will log in to their main characters, if they know they are being raided. If they will do, only if they are sure the characters are safe (using alts to scout). If you did not expect the raid and to be attacked, you are dead inside of a closed space (since raiders will also make sure to secure the breaches).


I have participated many raids since W3. Been there, done that. Never seen anyone surviving in a village after logging in in the middle of a raid. Does not matter whether the dude had a shield&sword or not. Moreover, people tend to have several layers of brickwalls and might have their fighter character's hearthfire to be stored in a brickwall inside of the village.
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