Fixing personal claims

[Casual]

Did developers really think that making players defenseless for 8 hours is a good idea?

If you have a better solution to the converse problem of cheap claim griefing, I'm all ears.

Just to make clear why I think that actual solution is bad. Basically side effect of making claims have no effect during first 8 hours makes all new players completely defenseless. And to say more, it only makes them defenseless if they decide to not use any alts and play only on their main character (which I stupid shouldn't have made).

So, in my opinion better solution would be making first personal claim have lowered soak-value for 8 hours, so that it's destroyable with any better pickaxe and some strength, after that time soak value of claim should return to normal.

Any next claim should have 8 hours period during which it wouldn't have any effects on the claimed terrain (and would have lowered soak value for 8 hours).

It would not hurt new players, because they usually build their bases on first personal claims, so no one would be capable of griefing them by building their own personal claim there.

Any better players who get griefed like that should already have enough strength or better quality of pickaxe so they would be able of dealing with the problem in first 8 hours.

[sabinati]

or you could just use a leanto to store your stuff while the claim is waiting?

[loftar]

So, in my opinion better solution would be making first personal claim have lowered soak-value for 8 hours, so that it's destroyable with any better pickaxe and some strength, after that time soak value of claim should return to normal.

Soak already isn't a problem, though, since the soak on walls and houses and like things start out disabled and grow over longer times than the claim takes to activate. The problem is that someone plops it down on places where you obviously intend to build, forcing you to commit Vandalism to clear it.

[Casual]

So, in my opinion better solution would be making first personal claim have lowered soak-value for 8 hours, so that it's destroyable with any better pickaxe and some strength, after that time soak value of claim should return to normal.

Soak already isn't a problem, though, since the soak on walls and houses and like things start out disabled and grow over longer times than the claim takes to activate. The problem is that someone plops it down on places where you obviously intend to build, forcing you to commit Vandalism to clear it.

So as I said, make it so any next claim has 8 hours duration without having any effect on claimed terrain (as it is right now) and so that it's possible to destroy without vandalism and leaving any scents.

I can see that players could create multiple alts without any personal claims to grief in the future, then it's partially a problem of people who decide to build over unclaimed area (they have to keep in mind that anyone can come there and build their own personal claim). This could also be improved with requirements of experience points. Otherwise they have to use the vandalism to remove the claim.

I don't think that newbies would be hurt in anyway cause they usually tend to build on area which was already claimed by them and people who are experienced enough to understand these mechanics should know that building over unclaimed area is a risk.

or you could just use a leanto to store your stuff while the claim is waiting?

Yes, but I can't hide everything in the leanto (also I am not sure if players are capable of claiming more than one leanto, cause otherwise there wouldn't be enough space). So, all of my tanning tubs, drying frames and smelters would be destroyed. And waiting until my claim is ready would make me pretty much unable to progress for the duration of these 8 hours.

[sabinati]

or you could just use a leanto to store your stuff while the claim is waiting?

Yes, but I can't hide everything in the leanto (also I am not sure if players are capable of claiming more than one leanto, cause otherwise there wouldn't be enough space). So, all of my tanning tubs, drying frames and smelters would be destroyed. And waiting until my claim is ready would make me pretty much unable to progress for the duration of these 8 hours.

you're doing it wrong

[Casual]

or you could just use a leanto to store your stuff while the claim is waiting?

Yes, but I can't hide everything in the leanto (also I am not sure if players are capable of claiming more than one leanto, cause otherwise there wouldn't be enough space). So, all of my tanning tubs, drying frames and smelters would be destroyed. And waiting until my claim is ready would make me pretty much unable to progress for the duration of these 8 hours.

you're doing it wrong

Explain to me what I am doing wrong then, I have somehow survived until I got Yeomanry and even my claim was there already for 4 hours. Then I read that claims are pretty much useless for 8 hours and shit happens.

[Audiosmurf]

Yes, but I can't hide everything in the leanto (also I am not sure if players are capable of claiming more than one leanto, cause otherwise there wouldn't be enough space). So, all of my tanning tubs, drying frames and smelters would be destroyed. And waiting until my claim is ready would make me pretty much unable to progress for the duration of these 8 hours.

you're doing it wrong

Explain to me what I am doing wrong then, I have somehow survived until I got Yeomanry and even my claim was there already for 4 hours. Then I read that claims are pretty much useless for 8 hours and shit happens.

Don't build shit that you're afraid to lose until you have a claim operational. Keep items you don't want stolen in your inventory.

[sabinati]

Don't build shit that you're afraid to lose until you have a claim operational. Keep items you don't want stolen in your inventory.

+ leanto

[Casual]

Don't build shit that you're afraid to lose until you have a claim operational. Keep items you don't want stolen in your inventory.

If that's the game design, that you want to keep players away until realtime passes then I got nothing to say.

[sabinati]

the point is don't hoard stuff you aren't going to use soon and don't overbuild your infrastructure past your capacity to protect it in the beginning