Tree cuttings

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Tree cuttings

Postby Fostik » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:56 am

We are in the situation, where game blocking you from planting trees during ~20-23 days, when the trees don't have seeds during winter, spring, and few first days of summer, and this is the one side. The other side is that common sense will never allow you to make it so, that trees will have seeds during these seasons.
Moreover, game came to the state, when you have multiple ways to plant tree, and i think we can consider a new way for planting trees - tree cuttings. As i know, literally any tree can be cloned with pruned branch being placed in certain conditions.

By having certain skill, Foresty for example, you will be able to strike 1-2 cuttings from a tree any season. This cuttings can be planted in treeplanters pots, just like other tree seeds. Tree cuttings cant be planted directly in the ground.
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Re: Tree cuttings

Postby Fostik » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:47 am

Bump. Please fix this winter-spring seeds problem somehow.
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Re: Tree cuttings

Postby Fostik » Fri May 07, 2021 9:08 am

Necrobump, we still need a solution for winter-spring tree seeds issue.
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A little to add for this mechanic:
- You can strike only one cutting per tree
- Cutting can be taken only during spring, autumn, summer
- Cuttings can't be stored, it will die in short time to become a branch
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Re: Tree cuttings

Postby jorb » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:54 pm

Hmmm. That is interesting. Will consider.
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Re: Tree cuttings

Postby Massa » Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:49 pm

jorb wrote:Hmmm. That is interesting. Will consider.

Do you feel it would be easier to simply allow the seed growth timer to never stop, including winter, even though it may seem odd, than adding tree cuttings to every tree? One seems a much more time consuming task for your hands to code and sprite than the other, with the same net benefit.
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Re: Tree cuttings

Postby Agrik » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:01 am

What if to allow players to grow saplings in Treeplanter's Pot longer? Or, maybe in another larger vessel, maybe barrel-sized. Maybe simply in a Barrel. Such saplings could grow to ~50% in the new pot (tub?) indoors during winter (but degrade if left there longer, i.e. if they outgrow the pot), then start from these ~50% when planted in the ground, in spring.
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Re: Tree cuttings

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:09 am

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Don't be adding this convoluted shit to get to parity with how the game was 3 years ago then tell me tutorializing things would be too much effort next dev stream
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Re: Tree cuttings

Postby Fostik » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:26 pm

Massa wrote:Do you feel it would be easier to simply allow the seed growth timer to never stop, including winter, even though it may seem odd, than adding tree cuttings to every tree? One seems a much more time consuming task for your hands to code and sprite than the other, with the same net benefit.


Well, I think they can only make few sprites and 3d objects for each tree/bush type (conifer,leaf and bush), copy a bit of code from tree seeds, and then add one more row in DB/whatever for tree cuttings as available tree harvest and it won't be such a big deal as you describe.
On the other hand we can go with oversimplified solution that will make game look like student's mod for opensource game, for what's sake? Most of the people arguing in this forum will not even login until new world, so why are we rushing?
JFYI I'm not a big fan of seasons, but if it's been decided to left, no need to make it look worse.
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