This game is not fun any more

[Zentetsuken]

I mean, if you truly don't like anything about the game and it's not fun for you anymore, why are you spending all day on the game's forum?
You are allowed to leave you know, literally nobody is forcing you to stay.

Maybe one day in past he enjoys this game, but then some things have happen so he does not enjoy it now. Maybe game is this current state is still closest thing available to game he enjoys from this past, so he tries here to influence development into direction he can enjoy again.

Stomping and pouting seems like a pretty strange strategy for trying to influence things to change.

[jordancoles]

I mean, if you truly don't like anything about the game and it's not fun for you anymore, why are you spending all day on the game's forum?
You are allowed to leave you know, literally nobody is forcing you to stay.

Maybe one day in past he enjoys this game, but then some things have happen so he does not enjoy it now. Maybe game is this current state is still closest thing available to game he enjoys from this past, so he tries here to influence development into direction he can enjoy again.

Stomping and pouting seems like a pretty strange strategy for trying to influence things to change.

The system works

[list]
[*] Increased size of "Ash" heaps from 0.5 to 1 kilogram.
[*] Reduced passive water consumption of lit cauldrons. One full fuel meter should now burn through half (15l) of a cauldron's water meter.
[*] Reduced boil time of "Ash" to "Lye" by 25%. Lye/Ash/Cauldron changes somewhat inspired by this rudely formulated thread. Kids these days.

[Massa]

I mean, if you truly don't like anything about the game and it's not fun for you anymore, why are you spending all day on the game's forum?
You are allowed to leave you know, literally nobody is forcing you to stay.

Maybe one day in past he enjoys this game, but then some things have happen so he does not enjoy it now. Maybe game is this current state is still closest thing available to game he enjoys from this past, so he tries here to influence development into direction he can enjoy again.

Stomping and pouting seems like a pretty strange strategy for trying to influence things to change.

complaining is the only way to change anything

[IBanon]

This is why HnH will never be successful on Steam: lazy, over fed asses, can come in and destroy your home and steal everything you’ve worked on for months. This is a fundamental flaw and there really is no fixing it. Your only recourse is to slaughter any remaining animals; cut down trees and bushes you grown and turn them into sticks; put all of the seeds you’ve grown into troughs and empty them. Anything you cannot destroy, drop it in the ocean. Destroy everything and let them have what remains. Wait for a new world, have fun, then repeat the process when you get trampled by jerks who just want to ruin everyone else’s fun...can you have my stuff? HELL NO!

[Massa]

This is why HnH will never be successful on Steam: lazy, over fed asses, can come in and destroy your home and steal everything you’ve worked on for months. This is a fundamental flaw and there really is no fixing it. Your only recourse is to slaughter any remaining animals; cut down trees and bushes you grown and turn them into sticks; put all of the seeds you’ve grown into troughs and empty them. Anything you cannot destroy, drop it in the ocean. Destroy everything and let them have what remains. Wait for a new world, have fun, then repeat the process when you get trampled by jerks who just want to ruin everyone else’s fun...can you have my stuff? HELL NO!

This is a permadeath survival sandbox in which PvP and siege are features, not farmville. That's the game. This supposed "fundamental flaw" is the point of, and integral to, the game. Not sure what you think catapults and rams are for.

It's gorgeous in a way, how after a proper decade at least, people still roll up to the forest and are outraged by the presence of trees.

[Procne]

This is why HnH will never be successful on Steam: lazy, over fed asses, can come in and destroy your home and steal everything you’ve worked on for months.

It's pretty weird to call someone more organized and better at the game, "lazy"

[Zampfeo]

This is why HnH will never be successful on Steam: lazy, over fed asses, can come in and destroy your home and steal everything you’ve worked on for months. This is a fundamental flaw and there really is no fixing it. Your only recourse is to slaughter any remaining animals; cut down trees and bushes you grown and turn them into sticks; put all of the seeds you’ve grown into troughs and empty them. Anything you cannot destroy, drop it in the ocean. Destroy everything and let them have what remains. Wait for a new world, have fun, then repeat the process when you get trampled by jerks who just want to ruin everyone else’s fun...can you have my stuff? HELL NO!

This is a permadeath survival sandbox in which PvP and siege are features, not farmville. That's the game. This supposed "fundamental flaw" is the point of, and integral to, the game. Not sure what you think catapults and rams are for.

It's gorgeous in a way, how after a proper decade at least, people still roll up to the forest and are outraged by the presence of trees.

Permadeath, survival, sandbox =/= infinite progression, faction game. These things are all mutually exclusive to each other and there exists other PVP sandbox games with and without mechanics that lend themselves to infinite progression and balanced solo/small group play. Not saying Haven shouldn't have these things, but the person you are replying to has a point that these mechanics don't lend themselves to mainstream appeal. Haven isn't supposed to have mainstream appeal, though, obviously.

[Massa]

This is why HnH will never be successful on Steam: lazy, over fed asses, can come in and destroy your home and steal everything you’ve worked on for months. This is a fundamental flaw and there really is no fixing it. Your only recourse is to slaughter any remaining animals; cut down trees and bushes you grown and turn them into sticks; put all of the seeds you’ve grown into troughs and empty them. Anything you cannot destroy, drop it in the ocean. Destroy everything and let them have what remains. Wait for a new world, have fun, then repeat the process when you get trampled by jerks who just want to ruin everyone else’s fun...can you have my stuff? HELL NO!

This is a permadeath survival sandbox in which PvP and siege are features, not farmville. That's the game. This supposed "fundamental flaw" is the point of, and integral to, the game. Not sure what you think catapults and rams are for.

It's gorgeous in a way, how after a proper decade at least, people still roll up to the forest and are outraged by the presence of trees.

Permadeath, survival, sandbox =/= infinite progression, faction game. These things are all mutually exclusive to each other and there exists other PVP sandbox games with and without mechanics that lend themselves to infinite progression and balanced solo/small group play. Not saying Haven shouldn't have these things, but the person you are replying to has a point that these mechanics don't lend themselves to mainstream appeal. Haven isn't supposed to have mainstream appeal, though, obviously.

if you don't die, it sure can be infinite progression
and if a few fine folks in a survival sandbox group together, they are indeed a faction

they don't have to lend themselves to mainstream appeal like you said, this game is niche and this "fundamental flaw" as he called it is the spine itself of the game and the roots by which in maintains its place in our hearts

[Kaios]

More of a chore simulator than it has ever been.

[Zentetsuken]

More of a chore simulator than it has ever been.

so stop playing