Stop the Nonsense Dreams Farm

[DDDsDD999]

Didn't read the op since I know it's dogshit, but making dream catchers hold 50 dreams each and have an inventory like stockpiles would be nice.

[sMartins]

I hate to agree with Nightdawg but he rly is right. It's absolutely retarded that threads like these get to remain, meanwhile the best subforum to read about PVP shenanigans and drama is Hel.

Its funny that bitching about moderation is far more likely to get hel'd than the waterfall of trash C&I threads like this

Damn, you right .... I fell for It, Chapeau!
It's been too long time I'm away from the forum!

EDIT

ShublaPosts are masterpieces! No sane person could argue It.

[VDZ]

As per title I suggest to stop the dreams farming as following:

- When you build a dreamcatcher it is bound to the char who built it, kinda like the study desk
- Give it a radius
- Only when you sleep in that radius the dreamcatcher would generate some dreams
- One dreamcatcher per char
- Alts for generating more dreams => go ahead
- Quality of dreams would be determined by the INT ( and PSY ) of the char and dreamcatcher quality EDIT
- Rebalance curious - if needed

Woilà.

Cheers from Italy

The solution to excessive resource grind is either to
1) Decrease demand (nerf stuff that uses the resource, or make it require less of the resource); or
2) Increase supply (resource gets generated more per unit of time at the same cost, or otherwise becomes more easily accessible).

What you are proposing is increasing the tedium involved in acquiring the resource. Increased tedium = increased botting. You may think 'but people won't go that far', but you're wrong. As long as demand exists, people will jump through the dumbest hoops to acquire the resource. All the change would do is make that process a miserable experience. Useful if you want people to suffer, useless if you want to solve the actual problem.

[sMartins]

The solution to excessive resource grind is either to
1) Decrease demand (nerf stuff that uses the resource, or make it require less of the resource); or
2) Increase supply (resource gets generated more per unit of time at the same cost, or otherwise becomes more easily accessible).

What you are proposing is increasing the tedium involved in acquiring the resource. Increased tedium = increased botting. You may think 'but people won't go that far', but you're wrong. As long as demand exists, people will jump through the dumbest hoops to acquire the resource. All the change would do is make that process a miserable experience. Useful if you want people to suffer, useless if you want to solve the actual problem.

What needs Dreams so badly?
Just cause you are used in an Easy way to get this resource and won't change that! Lazy asses!
Shame, change Is for the Better, change is Life!

P.s. Also yours bots should have High int and psy to be relevant ... And already 99% of this game Is duable like that.

[MagicManICT]

"stop the dream farms by adding more alts to farm dreams"

-1 from me.

+1 to the -1.

what's the point? you litterally didn't solve any problem with this idea xd

It's ugly, broken, very old and just a place holder from the past.
Needs to be fixed at some point.

What's a placeholder? what's ugly, broken, and needs to be fixed? If anything, dreams got a fix a couple worlds ago when they were able to acquire quality. Do they need more work? Yes, mostly in the need for fewer dream catchers and ease of harvesting as long as dream-based curios are going to be as good as they are at the qualities you can get them to. (If anything, it calls for a massive balancing of the curio system.)

[sMartins]

what's the point? you litterally didn't solve any problem with this idea xd

It's ugly, broken, very old and just a place holder from the past.
Needs to be fixed at some point.

What's a placeholder? what's ugly, broken, and needs to be fixed? If anything, dreams got a fix a couple worlds ago when they were able to acquire quality. Do they need more work? Yes, mostly in the need for fewer dream catchers and ease of harvesting as long as dream-based curios are going to be as good as they are at the qualities you can get them to. (If anything, it calls for a massive balancing of the curio system.)[/quote]

Hello MagicMan!

Well, dreamcatcher catch Dreams, right?
Why should they keep genereting Dreams from the "thin air"?
Why can we build tons of them?
Don't we dream when we sleep?
How many dreams do you have per night?
Also now we have much more curios to pick from.

This to me Is ugly, broken and a place holder, no time to invest in a simple feature like this at the time they added It.

Cheers

[Sevenless]

I think a great cheap fix to this situation, if we don't want to dig into dreams and make a meaningful mechanic, is just to let dreamcatchers build up more charges. Need 50 catches for 100 dreams? Make catchers hold 10 each and now you need only 10. Most dream farms are only being harvested 1-2 times a day, and each one should generate about 50/day.

[Procne]

And make maximum number of charges scale with quality

[MadNomad]

suggestion for the next thread : stop the nonsense carrot farms
yes, take away farming from a farming game!

[sMartins]

suggestion for the next thread : stop the nonsense carrot farms
yes, take away farming from a farming game!

Hello MadNomad!

While farming make sense for carrots, It doesn't for dreams!

Cheers

P.S. Are you also in the Dreams racket?
I Remember you all that this change would apply for everyone, so it's not that you fall behind without yours Unlimited supply of Dreams!