FROG ROCK KILLING IS A CRIME

[BiggestWeed]

If you destroy a frog rock, it should absolutely be a heinous crime.
Fuck you

[ZamAlex]

Palisade your qustgivers. Crime at this game means nothing.

[MightySheep]

i killed a bunch today

[Fostik]

According to a bible, the frog commits mutually exclusive actions against my rokes I wanted to chip.
Sorry frog it's my rokes.

[Kaios]

I've always felt certain actions needed some karma/karmic type effect attributed to them, but I'm not really sure how something like that might be applied in this kind of game. Quest killing, destroying graves, destroying bodies or bones, etc. Actions that don't really fall under the purview of "crime" as it relates to the game but are still morally unethical. Maybe they could be account related and affect things like discovery of "fate" (pool?) curiosities, something like that perhaps.

[VDZ]

I've always felt certain actions needed some karma/karmic type effect attributed to them, but I'm not really sure how something like that might be applied in this kind of game. Quest killing, destroying graves, destroying bodies or bones, etc. Actions that don't really fall under the purview of "crime" as it relates to the game but are still morally unethical. Maybe they could be account related and affect things like discovery of "fate" (pool?) curiosities, something like that perhaps.

Why not just leave a non-severe scent, like with Trespassing? The playerbase can take care of the rest if they care enough.

[Kaios]

To do what with? You track the person... and then? If it's a non-severe scent then you can't do anything with it like summon anyways. Which types of players are typically doing those sorts of things, and which types of players are usually tracking scents? What if they simply use an alt to perform the action since it doesn't require criminal skills anyways? The point I was making was that if certain actions are not necessarily going to be labelled as crimes, then perhaps they should be considered moral decisions instead. As it currently stands, there is more incentive for an individual to destroy an enemy's body rather than bury it or simply leave it alone.

Applying scents to such actions is fine as well, but my suggestion was for something else entirely.

[MightySheep]

Some1 in my village spent ages making dozens of roads to questgivers and then some naked alt bashed like 10+ frogs and trees in 1 go with the roads lol, its not like you can even stop them. Killing a naked alt does nothing.

[VDZ]

To do what with? You track the person... and then? If it's a non-severe scent then you can't do anything with it like summon anyways. Which types of players are typically doing those sorts of things, and which types of players are usually tracking scents? What if they simply use an alt to perform the action since it doesn't require criminal skills anyways? The point I was making was that if certain actions are not necessarily going to be labelled as crimes, then perhaps they should be considered moral decisions instead. As it currently stands, there is more incentive for an individual to destroy an enemy's body rather than bury it or simply leave it alone.

Applying scents to such actions is fine as well, but my suggestion was for something else entirely.

Who are you to determine what is ethical and what isn't? Perhaps in my hearthling's culture, frogs are a bad omen and killing questgivers is a virtuous act. My point with the scent suggestion is that the game itself does not condemn actions; it simply gives the players ways to resolve the conflicts among each other. If you don't get bad karma for murder, why would you get it for chopping a tree that happened to be a questgiver?

[Saxony4]

Some1 in my village spent ages making dozens of roads to questgivers and then some naked alt bashed like 10+ frogs and trees in 1 go with the roads lol, its not like you can even stop them. Killing a naked alt does nothing.

Sounds like there shouldn't have been roads leading right to them then, basically did that to yourselves. True that there's essentially no recourse though.
Quest givers should probably be indestructible, I don't see why they should be removeable in the first place.

Palisade your qustgivers.

This is essentially the same as destroying them for anyone other than people who have access to them being walled in. Perhaps even worse because someone can still get a quest for them and then not have access.