reusable masterpiece sketches

[sylviavalentijn]

you pay real money for sketchbooks and lose them after building 1 item in a full loot open pvp game this isnt really that good a deal by any means. when i heard you could store them in your hearth fire i assumed that you could store a reusable sketch, so got one to finally put some pictures on shields, but no you get a single decal for $2.50 which you also need to make sure fits into the dimensions and color palette of the game

for all the work you have to do to make an image fit the game and pay you should atleast be able to make more than one item with that image; especially given the nature of equipment in this game, quality and gildings meaning they need to be constantly replaced. right now they are a rather strange way to monetize, sub tokens make sense but sketches are in a weird space where you pay to skip intentionally obtuse mechanics like painting without sketchbooks or variable materials. If i could set a sketchbook to a material or design, use it to make gear or apply to buildings and then keep it in my hearth fire and get either an empty one or the same one back the next world id buy hundreds, but staying as 'disposable' items im not going to buy any more.

[SexyBigBoobaDakkan]

Delusional. It's a cheap fee for a serious choice, not something you should be able to slap on everything you want. Additional insults.

[sylviavalentijn]

Delusional. It's a cheap fee for a serious choice, not something you should be able to slap on everything you want. Additional insults.

How is it delusional when you have store objects like hats that aren't ephemeral purchases akin to clash of clans gems, and persist world to world?
The current model for sketchbooks has not changed for about 10 years and i guarantee the only people buying them already whale out on hats and subs.
Devs have said its probably not been the best idea that cash shop hats are akin to wearing a bullseye, and reworked them many times. This is just more feedback about the cash shop items.
The only delusional part is thinking jorbtar will actually program something in current year

[SnuggleSnail]

I don't wanna be defending jorbtar rn, but it's hard to argue their monetization isn't one of the friendliest F2P models out there. There isn't rly any room to complain

[sylviavalentijn]

I don't wanna be defending jorbtar rn, but it's hard to argue their monetization isn't one of the friendliest F2P models out there. There isn't rly any room to complain

i agree for the subscription model and hats but one use sketches feel out of place particularly in a game where shit gets broken alot; hell im even quoting a world champion breaker of shit in this very thread

[Fostik]

But wait, you're literally able to select between painting sketch with linseed oil and pigments, or make a shortcut by paying 2.50$ as a sketchbook.
I'm failing to understand what's wrong with it having a shortcut for IRL money, and why would you want more?

[sylviavalentijn]

I'm failing to understand what's wrong with it having a shortcut for IRL money

Theres nothing wrong with it. Other games have alot worse. The cash shop is just quite nice comparatively to sketchbooks which are a one time use deal. Basically what im saying is if you pay for something cosmetic it should have an amount of permanence to it; otherwise yeah why not just do it with linseed oil and pigment

[VDZ]

But wait, you're literally able to select between painting sketch with linseed oil and pigments, or make a shortcut by paying 2.50$ as a sketchbook.
I'm failing to understand what's wrong with it having a shortcut for IRL money, and why would you want more?

Because it always feels bad to burn a sketch page on something knowing that it directly cost me real life money. I do use them for major things like snekkja sails but even then it feels like I'm wasting money. If masterpiece sketches simply unlocked the image you pick to forever craft for cheap it would practically be the same (I use a different snekkja sail design every time anyways) but feel like I'm not wasting the sketch (i.e. burning real life money). It would also incentivize more sketch usage; for example, how many village banners do you use sketches for? If for a one-time payment you could give all of your village banners the same design, I'm sure a lot more villages would be willing to burn one sketch to have their custom flag everywhere. Same for equipment, which can become obsolete or even break (who the hell uses masterpiece sketches for shields they actually use?); I could have a nice design on my shield if it didn't cost me $0.60 - $2.50 real life money per shield that gets wrecked in combat.

There isn't rly any room to complain

Sketch container expansion. Fortunately it hasn't escalated from there, and the addition of Jotun Clams (which basically negate container progression entirely) mitigated the damage, but it's still an incremental advantage via cash transactions. Incidentally, this mechanic was added to "[t]o extend the usefulness of Sketches", implying they're currently seeing limited use because of the poor value for the cost (when buying a single one, it costs you $2.50 to have an image on your shield until it breaks and then you need to pay up again to also apply it to your new shield).

[Audiosmurf]

I think "you get your purchased sketches back at the start of the world" is pretty reasonable.

[sylviavalentijn]

I think "you get your purchased sketches back at the start of the world" is pretty reasonable.

Yeah i mostly made this thread because it as VDZ says it feels bad to burn a sketch page for good with no hope of return, especially in this world that is supposedly not going to run for as long.