Happiness and alts

[borka]

Lack of reading comprehension makes you blind for the green color his name is in - and to help your insight comprehension green color says: Moderator

So when a Mod tells you to stop you should be aware that he has reasons to do so...and it's not smart to argue and be mean...

You're not getting an official warning (yet) because most of us know how overwhelming HnH can be and the impact on imagination can be overwhelming too

[fanit937]

can't you see? all you say is to destroy the suggestion.

...The idea being that an active player can increase their happiness while a bot cannot. In its current state, the happiness system provides very few meaningful ways to become happy. You'd essentially be condemning new players to death or to be crippled at start unless you altered the system to include a simple, cheap way to increase happiness faster than activities decrease it. If you do that, bots can very easily be programmed to exploit it too.

I don't see any replies containing the messages of "stop making suggestions" beside Teck's last reply. Also I don't see how pointing disadvantages of your suggestion will destroy it. From what I understand Teck is trying to have a discussion with you and explain how your suggestion can be improved if you could investigate deeper, and think of that how exactly both the advantages and disadvantages would effect the game but so far all your replyies are like "Agree with me or gtfo" :

instead of throwing to trash my desire and willingness to contribute, please contribute.

instead of telling me its a sh*t, help me do it better.

all the replies are telling me to stop trying to make a suggestion for the system. you must be the botters and alters

People here are trying to be contributed and their purpose is to help you do it better after all but now take a deep breath and think about it. I can say everyone above is very friendly, the real trolls have yet come to blame you.

I had a good laugh thanks.

[marbleveins]

you quoted wrong parts, they are separated. the lower was with this

this makes me think that you understood that the suggestion was only to add death by unhappiness . im trying to improve the happiness system gathering ideas, and this means changing it. you wasn't the only one taking the actual system as base and then add every thing I said to end up replying here that it won't work.

no, he didn't say that literally but is obvious. is not pointing disdvantages, because there is nothing to point at! there is no system suggested yet!

you are right, fanit937, my answers were not the best I could have given. except for the "Agree with me or gtfo". I don't want anyone to be agree, i just want to build the system with the ideas of everyone, so, i need no agreeS.

Lack of reading comprehension makes you blind for the green color his name is in - and to help your insight comprehension green color says: Moderator

So when a Mod tells you to stop you should be aware that he has reasons to do so...and it's not smart to argue and be mean...

borka, I'm using my time to help here. I WANT FRIENDS, FOR H&H's SAKE. I just see fingers pointing at the thread instead of ideas.

of course I know you are both moderators. and what? I don't think you are there to stop people trying to help somehow.
and he is talking as a member contributing to the thread, not as a moderator, as far as i can see.

[TeckXKnight]

Lack of reading comprehension makes you blind for the green color his name is in - and to help your insight comprehension green color says: Moderator

So when a Mod tells you to stop you should be aware that he has reasons to do so...and it's not smart to argue and be mean...

You're not getting an official warning (yet) because most of us know how overwhelming HnH can be and the impact on imagination can be overwhelming too ;)

I disagree. Moderators are still users and when I insult someone it doesn't mean I'm going to warn or ban them. It just means that I don't like them on a personal level. If he wants to keep posting and making suggestions he's free to. We're just at odds with each other but that happens. =)

[marbleveins]

Hey, I don't want to fight anymore, I'm losing motivation to continue and possible friends because of stupid discussions.
I just want to think characteristics to the system that is not implemented. and im asking for ideas to do this. just that.
of course I don't want to nerf, I'm farmer right now....... I just want to see dead bodys and know that they really were someone, thats creepy

you may have get used to alts and bots but in the bottom you know that it would be great to be useless making one

I will continue gathering ideas while playing. if someone is interested we can talk and discuss about it and if someone has an idea please post itttttttttttttttttttttt

[SuperNoob]

you tried to make 1 thing tie into another in a way it doesn't belong...that was your biggest issue here. there are lots of bots around and I understand your issues with those. on the other hand its impossible to play this game without atleast 1 alt(key alt) and discouraging to play if you don't have 2(miner or farmer depending on your main character's nature industry slider). even with alts and bots there are enough ways to die out there that we don't need another way to die that we have no way to control. its just unrealistic to die just from being sad, everyone has been sad at some point in their life but we're all still alive.

I think a better way to have happy/sad meter come into play would be with timers. say you're out foraging you have your base time to pick a foragable(I don't know what it is) but if you're happy it takes less time if you're sad it takes longer. as I said earlier there needs to be more ways to increase happiness before anything using happy/sad meter is ever implenented.

[marbleveins]

I didn't understand you first sentence.
I don't have issues with bots and I don't need a key alt yet but its obvious (another thing maybe to talk about).
It's not unrealistic to die from being sad when you can take it to whereItCanBeingAGame. and people die because of depression (or ruin its life), you must live in the clouds or something.

why no control? It's like the 4th time I say that I didnt say anything about the system yet..

I like your suggestion too but it can be inserted in a bigger one

[SuperNoob]

I didn't understand you first sentence.

you tried to tie happiness into dissuading alts/bots it won't work!

I don't have issues with bots and I don't need a key alt yet but its obvious (another thing maybe to talk about).

if you have no issue with bots you wouldn't be looking for reason to get rid of them, if you don't have a key alt you'll be killed lose your key and your home will no longer be usable!

It's not unrealistic to die from being sad when you can take it to whereItCanBeingAGame. and people die because of depression (or ruin its life), you must live in the clouds or something.

to commit suicide in HnH there are 2 things you can do:
1-get the swimming skill and actually try to use it
2 get naked and go slap a bear/boar

why no control? It's like the 4th time I say that I didnt say anything about the system yet..

if you know a way to make a character happy feel free to share it, but as far as I know its all randomly tied to whats around you. as long as thats what changes your happiness meter you have no way to control it other than leaving or destroying things around you. destroying things around you isn't a good idea(I like skeletons for decoration I said this before but stand near 1 and see how long it takes you to drop to 100% sad) since you may need them later...

[borka]

make your char happy sure working examples : punch a lot of chickens, cook honey bun doughs

[marbleveins]

Maybe you're right and it wont work, but thats exactly what this thread is for, to talk about it.
Sorry, with that bout the bots/alts I meant that I didn't even saw them in-game.


I'm almost sure that the currently system only uses some specific cicumstances to try how it was working while developing.
What makes you happy/unhappy is something to discuss too, and that depends on how will it work. thats why I didn't say anything about what makes you ha../unha..

At this point...

...I just don't know if I should continue because I'm not feeling comfortable, I'm just fighting with everyone when I thought I would be discussing how to improve the system and so It could reach alts/bots.
and it was my first post



off-topic: can I use this as my sig? I loved it

to commit suicide in HnH there are 2 things you can do:
1-get the swimming skill and actually try to use it
2 get naked and go slap a bear/boar

edit: tell me if I can Quote you too in the sig