Bucket Grinding

[Fantastication]

That would make h&h just like any other multiplayer game.
Then i could go play wurm (uses such a system) for example.

If its an improvement then it dosn't matter if its been done before or never been done.

It's not an improvement at all, since people who want to increase something like carpentry will now macro treechopping and buckets to get the increases.

Here is an established village who's cook has stopped playing, now they need a new cook, unfortunately for them their new cook has cooking 1 to start with, so he's going to be ruining their q100 foodstuff for quite a while until he stops detracting from it so much. This is a Bad Thing to implement on it's own.

[ImpalerWrG]

It's not an improvement at all, since people who want to increase something like carpentry will now macro treechopping and buckets to get the increases.

Exactly ONLY the approximately 5-10% of the player base which desires to be a master carpenter would be Tree grinding, not the remaining 95% as is the current situation.

Here is an established village who's cook has stopped playing, now they need a new cook, unfortunately for them their new cook has cooking 1 to start with, so he's going to be ruining their q100 foodstuff for quite a while until he stops detracting from it so much. This is a Bad Thing to implement on it's own.

Then who pray tell WOULD be cooking the food without ruining it if none of them have any cooking skill? Seriously these are the most incoherent counter arguments imaginable.

[Nanoth]

Personally I don't understand how Bucket Grinding is actually worth it...

Some maths from the top of my head here (Tree cutting and log cutting guesstimates, never really paid attention that much there, bucket from Wiki). With the LP Bonus at 360%..

Cutting down Tree - 72LP
Cutting Log into Planks - 72LP
Plank into Bucket - 108
(Bone Saw used) 4 planks = 432
(Metal Saw used) 6 Planks = 648

Bone Total = 572LP a Tree + 1log
Metal Total = 792LP a Tree + 1Log


I find making Dowsing Rods more worth wild...

[DigDog]

Personally I don't understand how Bucket Grinding is actually worth it...

Some maths from the top of my head here (Tree cutting and log cutting guesstimates, never really paid attention that much there, bucket from Wiki). With the LP Bonus at 360%..

Cutting down Tree - 72LP
Cutting Log into Planks - 72LP
Plank into Bucket - 108
(Bone Saw used) 4 planks = 432
(Metal Saw used) 6 Planks = 648

Bone Total = 572LP a Tree + 1log
Metal Total = 792LP a Tree + 1Log


I find making Dowsing Rods more worth wild...

Try the same thing using a Q77 bone saw while having 27 carpentry.

[Nanoth]

Personally I don't understand how Bucket Grinding is actually worth it...

Some maths from the top of my head here (Tree cutting and log cutting guesstimates, never really paid attention that much there, bucket from Wiki). With the LP Bonus at 360%..

Cutting down Tree - 72LP
Cutting Log into Planks - 72LP
Plank into Bucket - 108
(Bone Saw used) 4 planks = 432
(Metal Saw used) 6 Planks = 648

Bone Total = 572LP a Tree + 1log
Metal Total = 792LP a Tree + 1Log


I find making Dowsing Rods more worth wild...

Try the same thing using a Q77 bone saw while having 27 carpentry.

Whats it give you (I ain't leveling Carpentry to grind LP)

[DigDog]

Don't have my saw right now but if I remember right it was somewhere around 170 LP per bucket.

[Nanoth]

Don't have my saw right now but if I remember right it was somewhere around 170 LP per bucket.

So wait, at a cost of what, 37100LP to get 27 Carpentry, and then having someone having around 50 Survival to get you that Bonesaw. So you can go and grind buckets...
Which changes it from 572LP to what... 824LP, Heck you still haven't broken 1000LP and you still need another 36000LP to make up for spending it on Carpentry...

I am still making more LP through Drowsing Rods then you are...


And even more so, I am able to make them faster then you do as a fresh character and also have more LP in the end...

Seriously who ever started the Bucket Grind for LP shit, they didn't do the maths, and neither has anyone else it seems...

Heres something to tide you over.
Your 170LP/bucket
vs
My Drowsing Rod Grind.

Cutting Tree = 72LP
Cutting Log to blocks = 72LP (I now have 12blocks which equals 5branches each which is 60 Branches in total.)
Making a Drowsing Rod = 58LP
Making a Drowsing Rod until all branches are used = 30*58LP = 1740

I can do this with no spent LP on any (Stat) skills...
So far I am +35216LP on you there...

Edit:: Lets not forget the LP from making the 15 Dreamcatches to begin with (33LP per tick if I remember right, which is three ticks) AND finding the String for it, and if people have been hunting a few dried hides can cover that as well, but for string, 148LP per string...

[DigDog]

You forgot that you have to raise exploration to find enough string for your dreamcatchers first. Plus, making buckets is way faster in the end since you don't have to run around searching for string or waiting for your dreamcatchers to reload.

[Nanoth]

You forgot that you have to raise exploration to find enough string for your dreamcatchers first. Plus, making buckets is way faster in the end since you don't have to run around searching for string or waiting for your dreamcatchers to reload.

Working 15 Dreamcatchers gives time for the first 5 to regen 5 points, constantly grinding to be able to go on and on (logs provided on the side) you would need a min of around 25 Dream catchers. Thats just 25 string...

If I only spent enough LP to get to level 10 in explore (a point where seeing Taproot and Nettles is more common) I will have spent only 5400 LP on getting enough Explore. Then there is off course the Skill of Hearth Magic which costs somewhere of around 4000-6000 to get, I am still way ahead of you...

[DigDog]

(logs provided on the side)

That's the point. While you waste time walking back and forth to your catchers, bucket grinders just move on to the next tree and call it a day. It's faster in the end.