Blackest of the Black Arts

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Blackest of the Black Arts

Postby Bodomfreak » Sat May 11, 2013 5:43 pm

Of what use are skeletons? I can't get their bones... They just lay about all the time... We should put them to work! With a alter of some sort and some high level materials we should be able to make bone minions to do our bidding! They should't be able to use tools or interact with kilns ect. Bone Minions should be strong but slow, have storage(maybe 6x6), melee and ranged capabilities(max skill 100), and remain idle when not following orders. They should also decay over time and require bone glue, bones, and beautiful dreams to repair. If a Bone Minions is destroyed it is gone...but it's inventory and equipment should fall on the ground. The quality of the Bone minion would depend heavily on the quality of the materials used in the creation of the alter ued to create the minion, and the materials used to create the Minion itself... Players should be limited to 1 active Minion at a time, but other inactive Minions could be stored complete in coffins...
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Re: Blackest of the Black Arts

Postby englishman » Sat May 11, 2013 6:53 pm

I dont think there should be "bone minions" and If there are they shouldnt have 100 range and melee they should have the stats of the deceased player, and even then they should be like 2/4 of what the living player had.
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Re: Blackest of the Black Arts

Postby krikke93 » Sat May 11, 2013 7:22 pm

Skeletons shouldn't have any use. Reason? people would spawn alt to kill them for skeletons.

BUT I suggest skeletons to decay when not in a claim, because the world is full of them.
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Re: Blackest of the Black Arts

Postby Bodomfreak » Sat May 11, 2013 7:40 pm

I was saying a cap of 100, but 1/4 the dead player is cooler. Alt spamming would be pointless because of the expense of the ritual and the hefty decrease in stats of the dead player. No tools for the Minions because of balance and simplicity. They should be able to lift things, carry an inventory, fight on command, and otherwise stand about looking fearsome.
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Re: Blackest of the Black Arts

Postby Taxaso » Sat May 11, 2013 7:43 pm

It should be possible to do graves and make a skull helmet out of skulls and some metals.
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Re: Blackest of the Black Arts

Postby SuperNoob » Sat May 11, 2013 7:47 pm

krikke93 wrote:BUT I suggest skeletons to decay when not in a claim, because the world is full of them.

I'll +1 that

to the original topic, if the skeletons stats were based on the stats of the dead character(maybe cut in half) it would prevent people sacrificing alts for this. there are many other ways this will be easilly abused though:
your farmer gets killed you resurrect it as a minion and you now have a 'bot' to do your tedious farming for you, and even with half skill its still better/quicker than making a new farmer.
your miner gets killed you send that same miner right back into the mine with his high strength(or atleast a part of it) and hes still mining.

over all its too easy to abuse a system where you can have something working for you...if you don't want the skeletons around you can alway A-Y to destroy them.
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Re: Blackest of the Black Arts

Postby LadyV » Sat May 11, 2013 8:09 pm

No

I see no need to create artificial beings, from dead bodies, to play the game for you. It's a survival genre you are meant to struggle and achieve. Whats the point of loss if you can just reanimate a skeleton to do your bidding?
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Re: Blackest of the Black Arts

Postby Bodomfreak » Sat May 11, 2013 8:24 pm

I've already stated, the Minion should only be able to carry things, and fight things, and only when you, as the active player ;) , gives it orders. After following its orders it would remain idle. Thus preventing any bot activity. Farming would have no effect. Mining would have no effect. 1/4 the deceased combat based stats and skills would be the Minions stats.
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Re: Blackest of the Black Arts

Postby LadyV » Sun May 12, 2013 12:45 am

Bodomfreak wrote:I've already stated, the Minion should only be able to carry things, and fight things, and only when you, as the active player ;) , gives it orders. After following its orders it would remain idle. Thus preventing any bot activity. Farming would have no effect. Mining would have no effect. 1/4 the deceased combat based stats and skills would be the Minions stats.


It carries things for you. It fights for you. It only does things when you order it. Sounds like it's playing the game for you as I stated.
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Re: Blackest of the Black Arts

Postby Bodomfreak » Sun May 12, 2013 1:01 am

I'm thinking more of it as an rpg. There is hearth magic, why not other types. I was suggesting the ritual to be hard to achieve and to cost many valuable resources. The minion would be hard to gain, and easy to lose :o
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or the sword, or axe you swing.
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