Use Nettles as Plant Fibres

[ImpalerWrG]

With the new seed system requiring the drying of weed to obtain crop seed the lack of any wild plant fibres is a significant hindrance. Without them you can't make an herbalist table which is needed to open up a great number of reactions and recipes not least is a reasonable drying time for weeds. I propose that Nettle be used as a fibre substitute, either in addition to or in place of its use as a string as Spindly taproot is filling that need quite well. If Nettles could be used for making linen that would also make them useful after you have made yourself a shirt/pants out of them. Also changing the Beehive recipe to use Fibre instead of Straw would help tone down the incredible dependence on wheat, its by far the most valuable crop because of its use is so many foods but the ability to cut the growth of other crops in half just makes it crazy good, this is independent of the fact its also crazy rare as well.

[Nanothnir]

Your kidding me right...
Everyone has been complaining about Hemp and Flax being so common that they are drowing in it, and you are saying its impossible to get Plant Firbers??? Seriously, Brodgar's First full Drying Rack produced 3 seeds of Flax/Hemp. And within two harvests of the plants we had another 13 Flax/Hemp seeds from more Drying Frames, THEN after building our first Table, we continued to get more and more and more Flax/Hemp Seeds from WWWs...

Still though it did help start our Mass Fiber Farms needed for Banners...

Um... Straw is really used for 3 main things (more after Animal Husbandry but I doubt there is alot with Animals yet). Straw Baskets, Hives and Mansions. And Straw is a Secondary Biproduct of Wheat, so after your first harvest of wheat, you put your first straw into a Hive, then you plant the 3 Wheat Seeds (cause you SHOULD have Full nature by then) after that you put your next 3 Straw into the Hive and plant the 9 Seeds. And then finally you will start producing more and more Straw then you know what to do with because by then you have gotten your Hive...

Your not trying to build a Mansion straight away are you....

[theTrav]

Disagree with nettles as string/fiber.

Agree with wheat being the most important crop.

Suggested fix: Add more straw/flour producing crops. Maybe throw in oats while you do the horses update

[sabinati]

Disagree with nettles as string/fiber.

Agree with wheat being the most important crop.

Suggested fix: Add more straw/flour producing crops. Maybe throw in oats while you do the horses update

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[ViciousGamer04]

Disagree with nettles as string/fiber.

Agree with wheat being the most important crop.

Suggested fix: Add more straw/flour producing crops. Maybe throw in oats while you do the horses update

Horses update..!?!?!? Link me to this thread discussing this!!!

[ImpalerWrG]

Your kidding me right...
Everyone has been complaining about Hemp and Flax being so common that they are drowing in it, and you are saying its impossible to get Plant Firbers??? Seriously, Brodgar's First full Drying Rack produced 3 seeds of Flax/Hemp. And within two harvests of the plants we had another 13 Flax/Hemp seeds from more Drying Frames, THEN after building our first Table, we continued to get more and more and more Flax/Hemp Seeds from WWWs...

I know Hemp/Flax are very common results from drying Weed, the point is that you have to go through through the whole weed finding/drying and growing process to get any Fibre at all, that can take new players a week or more. Fibre is hugly abundant once you get your Hemp/Flax farm going but impossible to get in even the tiniest quantity before that. Also the Nettle plant is virtually identical to Flax, their both actually full of the same kind of Bast fibre. But all of that aside the main problem is Nettles are as of right now a plant without a purpose other then creating two pieces of low value newbie clothing, after you've done that you never need to collect them again. If they become Plant fibre then it kills two birds with one stone, giving them a real purpose in the game and providing a modest supply of plant fibre to newbs. It's just more consistent if you think about it, you don't have to domesticate an animal to get meat, so why should you have to grow plant fibre when it should be found readily in the wild?

Suggested fix: Add more straw/flour producing crops. Maybe throw in oats while you do the horses update

Adding more straw/flour crops would be great as it would break the 'wheat' monopoly I hope that Barley and Rye make it in as well at some point. But my intent was to propose a quick fix that could be implemented in a few minutes rather then a big content addition like a new plant. Also the new crops wouldn't solve the "can't get it in the wild" issue, unless the whole silly 'weed' system is dropped and we go back to having plants growing in the wild.

[sabinati]

Disagree with nettles as string/fiber.

Agree with wheat being the most important crop.

Suggested fix: Add more straw/flour producing crops. Maybe throw in oats while you do the horses update

Horses update..!?!?!? Link me to this thread discussing this!!!

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[Potjeh]

Or they could just give WWWs a bigger chance to turn into wheat. As for nettles, they should really count as string for fishing rods. That, and make them edible after boiling. Nettles are ersatz spinach IRL.

[sabinati]

maybe even Nasselsoppa

[Flocke]

if you have found flax or hemp seeds (and this is very easy) you can easily get enough plant fibers for a herbalist table...
in the meantime you can use another drying frames.

Actually, both taproots and nettles (and quite arguable flax/hemp fibres and others as well) should be remade a bit so that they aren't immediately usable as string. The weirdness of it struck me especially at one time when I built a bow out of a nettle and a taproot. From the realism aspect, that's a bit hilarious. They should probably have to be processed in some way, such as having to be dried or spun and treated with something else or something.

I'm unsure how I like the effect it would have on the game mechanics, though. It would mean, of course, that it would be impossible (or at least much harder) to construct e.g. bows or ropes "in the field". I'm not sure whether I like that effect or not right now. On the one hand, it would be fun to have a prepare a bit more in advance to do stuff. On the other hand, one of the things I find fun about exploring is coming across various things and using them then and there.

Anyway, that's the reason why I'm not really bothering about the nettles or taproots until I've given that aspect of them more thought.

any ideas to speed up his thinking process in this case?

Or they could just give WWWs a bigger chance to turn into wheat. As for nettles, they should really count as string for fishing rods. That, and make them edible after boiling. Nettles are ersatz spinach IRL.

maybe even Nasselsoppa

This!

Nasselsoppa maybe stored in jars and you can sip it via right click the jar like tea/water...
i think we need more food beside farming/baking, fishing and hunting to fill up our stomach!

every new player is a survivalist in the first place and becomes a farmer or hunter later...
and fishing is boring, more than hunting.

and if not as food maybe something for our "Potions & Herbs"-category?