Haven and Racism

[Burinn]

Whites, blacks and asians are equals. On the other siede - gypsies (like Nooby) shouldn't be allowed to post on the forums.


im posting in a troll thread made by a troll so im trolling

What about any of my posts makes me a troll? I've been completely consistent in stating my beliefs.

Dismissing someone else as a "troll" doesn't validate you being totally racist.

[CSPAN]

Everyones current thought, "pls stop making these threads on a video game forum, none of us really care, everyone please stop bumping these threads and feeding this useless conversation, fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off"

which is WRONG

[Zeler]

For each quoting you will not post the name. This is exclusion of the name of Zeler. You are trying to call as a witchhunt on this man? Was this a purposeful or some mistaken typings?

On these topics: I think some personal attacks on the forum posters will already be sent to Hel for being not production. Racist attacks or otherwise. I think this is sufficient already.

I think it's pretty obvious to most active forum users that there are a particular set of people that regularly make openly racist remarks, he being one of them.

It does, since you are pulling arguments out of your ass.

[Ysh]

Everyones current thought, "pls stop making these threads on a video game forum, none of us really care, everyone please stop bumping these threads and feeding this useless conversation, fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off"

which is WRONG

If everyone will think this, how will the thread continue to be bumped?

[DDDsDD999]

Niggers, spics, and jews mean no good news.

[Burinn]

For each quoting you will not post the name. This is exclusion of the name of Zeler. You are trying to call as a witchhunt on this man? Was this a purposeful or some mistaken typings?

On these topics: I think some personal attacks on the forum posters will already be sent to Hel for being not production. Racist attacks or otherwise. I think this is sufficient already.

I think it's pretty obvious to most active forum users that there are a particular set of people that regularly make openly racist remarks, he being one of them.

It does, since you are pulling arguments out of your ass.

"Racism is bad and the forum should try to not be racist." is pulling an argument out of my ass? Oh please. If you're upset that someone is calling you out for your bigotry you should just say so.

[CSPAN]

Everyones current thought, "pls stop making these threads on a video game forum, none of us really care, everyone please stop bumping these threads and feeding this useless conversation, fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off"

which is WRONG

If everyone will think this, how will the thread continue to be bumped?

trollz

[Zeler]

Forget it. You being female(?) should be enough to dismiss your oppinion.

[VDZ]

Haven used to be a lot more racist. And I mean truly racist, not just in a name-calling kind of way; when I was new I was taught to fear the Russians and to generally be wary of non-Western people. This was partially justified; people of the same real-life regions tended to band together and be hostile to people who didn't speak their language. The old 'watch out for Russians' is now a more general 'watch out for large factions', and an increase in friendly interactions (such as trade) seems to be reducing racial tensions as well.

I was recently surprised to see someone's screenshot in the screenshot thread deleted because he had a swastika on his shield; he had to repost it with the swastika censored. The forum community seems to be heading in a significantly more politically correct direction nowadays.

I agree this forum might be salty at times, but some of the racial slurrs are meant as goodhearted teasing and showing off.
We should ask the one being the usual targets such as the polish, the russians and last but not least the canadians.

I don't think it can be considered goodhearted teasing. Though I doubt any genuine racism was involved, as the posters just seemed to tap into racist sentiment to be more hurtful, the comments are definitely hateful. Which is nothing new in this game; after all, Haven is where people abuse bugs to utterly annihilate everything people have built up over several weeks and then brag about it on the forums. It's just how the community is.

I think we can all agree that these statements are outright egregious and we should expect better. Before anyone tries to "call me out" as a troll or feminazi I just want you all to know that I take this seriously. None of this is okay. The mods or community at large needs to come up with some kind of memorandum or at the very least begin to punish those that REGULARLY spew racist, bigoted, vitriol across the forum.

Thoughts?

You're fighting symptoms here; the problem is not the racial slurs, but the people using them and the hate for which they're used. You can hide the slurs, but the hate will remain. They'll just find another way to express it.

[spavaloo]

I honestly can't tell if this is an elaborate troll account or if you're one of those living parodies who doesn't recognize their nature.