Rl’yeh is sinking, hasn’t reached the bottom yet

[NOOBY93]

I don't see how ramming should be the only way to raid someone. Ever heard of insiders? Backstab? Failure to protect your village? All of these should be possible IMO, and while "backstab" while visiting isn't possible anymore, failure to properly protect your village and insiders are still possible, and one of those way used to raid the village.

Most of these became impossible with visitor debuff introduction.

Umm no. Being an insider is still possible, since an insider is a village member who works for the enemy. Nothing to do with visitor debuff.
Failure to properly protect your village? As seen in the controversial example in this thread, still possible.
The only one that became impossible is killing someone after he lets you into his village.

[ssaaaax]

Insider as in open the gates, of course. Being a spy is different.

[banok]

I'm not an odditown fan at this point but you guys seemed to play smart, I can't see you guys being dumb enough to make a thread about bugraiding and think you wouldn't run risk of being nuked.

I always assumed from start of this thread that you were also getting bored of game and so didn't care if you got nuked. Or because you have multiple towns, then it wouldn't matter much. but from what your posting, its like you actually care and think this is different to walljumping

Well whatever I don't really care that much myself how world 9 continues. Its more about the precedent at this point.

[ArvinJA]

Please tell me where the abuse was

You didn't ram or catapult into the wall. which is the intended functionality to be able to raid a base. ergo it is a bug.

so hard to understand?

That's never been the case in H&H thus far. Raids happen all the time without rams, and they're not all bugraids. No-one was calling for a nuke last world where we planted a spy inside r'lyeh.

[NOOBY93]

Insider as in open the gates, of course. Being a spy is different.

Do you know what an "insider" is?

[ssaaaax]

Insider as in open the gates, of course. Being a spy is different.

Do you know what an "insider" is?

If you seriously think an insider is only someone who spies for another faction, you are mistaken. It might as well be someone opening the gates to an enemy, which isn't possible now. As well as someone building a minehole - the only insider type of a raid I can imagine being possible with visitor debuff around (probably not anyway). I'm refering to "insider" and "backstab" used next to another in one sentence.

[Patchouli_Knowledge]

That's never been the case in H&H thus far. Raids happen all the time without rams, and they're not all bugraids. No-one was calling for a nuke last world where we planted a spy inside r'lyeh.

Insider job like spies and trojan horse are perfectly valid strategy though. This one is more controversial.

[Astarisk]

For your viewing pleasure, my first attempt at a video. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLp5oc6A4Tg

[Vigilance]

For your viewing pleasure, my first attempt at a video. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLp5oc6A4Tg

saltlord rawrz takes his fee for the raid

[jordancoles]

wtb the good old legacy days when noone gave a shit if you got raided by a unintended mechanic or a bug and it would had been complete nonsense to ask the devs to nuke someone because of it.

https://youtu.be/CrZ96zbVawQ?list=PLXuB ... j7OqSFLQye