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[pedorlee]

Are you retarded? That's like saying "I got killed by a raider yesterday, he should be punished accordingly." "What should he be punished for?" "I have no idea, ask the devs, I'm just here on the 'nuke them' bandwagon!"

I wish i had you here in front of me. I pray to gods for it.

[algeralith]

So what with all other scenarios that could happen? What if some noob left a hearthfire in their village before it was even built (let's assume they didn't bash it) and then raided them the same way? I bet that would be punished too, I mean, he's done basically the same thing, just without using a charterstone.

Nonono. All the people who lured agroable animals into claims to kill people will be the next to be punished. Get it right!

[NOOBY93]

Are you retarded? That's like saying "I got killed by a raider yesterday, he should be punished accordingly." "What should he be punished for?" "I have no idea, ask the devs, I'm just here on the 'nuke them' bandwagon!"

I wish i had you here in front of me. I pray to gods for it.

No need to get all romantic now, buddy. I'm just saying your argument makes no sense.

[mietzi94]

What exactly should be punished? Using charterstones, teleporting to hearthfire and using vandalism the way it should be used?

he did not use a "mechanic" or a bug nobody knew of.

[strpk0]

What exactly should be punished? Using charterstones, teleporting to hearthfire and using vandalism the way it should be used?

he did not use a "mechanic" or a bug nobody knew of.

Except me, and basically everyone that has played this game for more than 2 weeks? Like I said, this is nothing new. Only difference is back then there was no "visitor buff" to make your life easier. Also you could easily oath your minehole alts to your own village and teleport them around much easier in that manner.
Nowadays it takes more effort to do this. Yes, it's still a retarded mechanic that needs to be fixed, but it's not a bug.

[sxasaaa]

Are you retarded? That's like saying "I got killed by a raider yesterday, he should be punished accordingly." "What should he be punished for?" "I have no idea, ask the devs, I'm just here on the 'nuke them' bandwagon!"

I wish i had you here in front of me. I pray to gods for it.

So you don't really know what should be punished? Should I take it as that? Then your argument is wrong, out of the discussion.

Nonono. All the people who lured agroable animals into claims to kill people will be the next to be punished. Get it right!

Another "abused" and "unintended" mechanic. Should J&L spawn a shitload of boars on them as a punishment?

What exactly should be punished? Using charterstones, teleporting to hearthfire and using vandalism the way it should be used?

he did not use a "mechanic" or a bug nobody knew of.

No idea what you're saying here. Hello?

[pedorlee]

My history with nooby come from far, and no, I wont keep this discusion with you, a guy who avoid all my arguments and keep saying the same HODOR stuff over and over. Its like talking to a wall. If you dont want to reply to my arguments i will do the same with you. And you are obvioulsly nobody to tell me im out of the discussion, as ARvin is nobody to tell non top players to shutup and keep their opinions to themselves.

[sxasaaa]

Your arguments are non-existent. All you say is that it should be punished, but then again you can't show what exactly should be. Maybe you should stop repeating your stuff, bro.

[pedorlee]

Your arguments are non-existent. All you say is that it should be punished, but then again you can't show what exactly should be. Maybe you should stop repeating your stuff, bro.

My arguments are in the -so bad- wall you mentioned before.
And the punishment is up to the devs. I gave my opionion there on how things should be.
No need to repeat them over and over.

[sxasaaa]

Your wall of text is basically a way of saying that anyone who doesn't do anything with the "rules" (that don't even exist btw, raiding only with a ram or catapult is not a rule, not even mentioned) has no intention of making the game better and should be punished. Don't really see how it applies to our case though.

As I said, I want you to name the thing that we did and should be punished for, and because you want a punishment - you should know for what. Haven and Hearth was always a harsh game without any social rules and I hope it doesn't change.

Following your arguments: what to do about people luring animals into a claim, with visitor debuff, and killing people inside their own village? Was that intended? What about people that abuse inherit system to "farm" LP (no matter how low of a reward it is), is that intended? How would they be punished?
What about the noob situation I mentioned?

So what with all other scenarios that could happen? What if some noob left a hearthfire in their village before it was even built (let's assume they didn't bash it) and then raided them the same way? I bet that would be punished too, I mean, he's done basically the same thing, just without using a charterstone.

He used the same thing as us - basically teleporting to his hearthfire and not getting visitor debuff. But then again, does it make sense to get visitor debuff when you port to your own hearthfire?

I ask once again, what was abused in this scenario:
1. Get charterstone secret and spawn an alt (as it was allowed on the charterstone itself).
2. Walk the alt outside and get vandalism.
3. Teleport back to hearthfire and use vandalism (in any way).