Rl’yeh is sinking, hasn’t reached the bottom yet

[APXEOLOG]

Oh cmon, let's stop pretending like this is by any means a mechanic. It's a bug. I don't even know if you're joking right now?

There's obviously an unintended mechanic in relation of hearthfire porting and visitor debuff

Wow, this is funny to see how you trying to avoid the facts that this is the same cases to prevent you nuke
Drama already here. I love it.

[sxasaaa]

Just a lack of relation between them - which almost everyone is using, just by porting into a village. Everyone should be punished? Retards will still say "bug abuse" though.

So how many times do you think you guys hearthed inside your walls without noticing visitor wasn't being applied? 1000? Maybe 2000? For me I think it's close to 2000 times including last world.

GG, world wipe please?

[Raffeh]

same crap

all you are doing is calling anyone who has a different opinion to you a retard? Even if these people are giving sound reasons behind why they think this is abuse etc.

[APXEOLOG]

Just a lack of relation between them - which almost everyone is using, just by porting into a village. Everyone should be punished? Retards will still say "bug abuse" though.

So how many times do you think you guys hearthed inside your walls without noticing visitor wasn't being applied? 1000? Maybe 2000? For me I think it's close to 2000 times including last world.

GG, world wipe please?

People used chairs for 8 worlds before they realized they can destroy them near wall. Definetly not an abuse

[sxasaaa]

I guess we have to nuke whole Haven community, everyone's a bugabusing scum. Fucking chairs man.

same crap

all you are doing is calling anyone who has a different opinion to you a retard? Even if these people are giving sound reasons behind why they think this is abuse etc.

"my opinion is that it is a bug abuse lolll"
Simply asking to point out the bug used though and they all shut up. Weird. I guess they want to keep their good reasons for themselves.

Also if you see "retard" in all of my tryharding posts then there's clearly something wrong with you. I used it once, okay? I really hate being mean to people!!

[spawningmink]

i really enjoy how at first they were like XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD we got you!!!
now when jorb says they will look into it they are like......theres no bug here.....please dont do anything.......pls

[SgtCayir]

The only way you can raid somebody is using the siege mechanics, get over it.

Oh but how wrong you are.

Example. You find a village with an unblocked cave entrance. You mine to their cave and walk through the entrance and raid the entire village. Clearly bug abusing and using unintended game mechanics right????

What we did was basically the exact same thing. Instead we used their own charter stone which they left unprotected and aloud characters to spawn on it (BIG BUG, MASSIVE ABUSE). Fed the spawned character curios (BIG BUG, PLS NUKE). Bought vandalism on said character (WHY ISN'T THERE A NUKE YET???). Used vandalism to build a mine hole on claim (ABUSE ABUSE ABUSE) Went up mine hole and raided village.

The mob mentality on these forums is hilarious.

[Raffeh]

I guess we have to nuke whole Haven community, everyone's a bugabusing scum. Fucking chairs man.

same crap

all you are doing is calling anyone who has a different opinion to you a retard? Even if these people are giving sound reasons behind why they think this is abuse etc.

"my opinion is that it is a bug abuse lolll"
Simply asking to point out the bug used though and they all shut up. Weird.

Are you serious right now... have you actually read the last 27 pages? i can see plain as day explanations on like page 3 - page 10 about how the visit debuff was put in place to stop people being able to raid without sieging first? That was how it was the implementation of that mechanic was intended. to stop all non sieging raids.

Also how using a road to teleport into a wall gives visit debuff, so shouldnt all other ways of teleporting give visitor debuff?

We are not here to pass judgement just to discuss the facts both sides of the argument. J&L are there to pass judgement.

[Raffeh]

The only way you can raid somebody is using the siege mechanics, get over it.

Oh but how wrong you are.

Example. You find a village with an unblocked cave entrance. You mine to their cave and walk through the entrance and raid the entire village. Clearly bug abusing and using unintended game mechanics right????

Yes i see your point here, and it would be fair game if they came up our actual walled in minehole, but they went through the effort of making their own by abusing a mechanic to get no visitor debuff in village initially...

[ArvinJA]

The only way you can raid somebody is using the siege mechanics, get over it.

Oh but how wrong you are.

Example. You find a village with an unblocked cave entrance. You mine to their cave and walk through the entrance and raid the entire village. Clearly bug abusing and using unintended game mechanics right????

Yes i see your point here, and it would be fair game if they came up our actual walled in minehole, but they went through the effort of making their own by abusing a mechanic to get no visitor debuff in village initially...

Your actual charterstone was used to spawn a character in your village. How is this neglect not comparable to leaving an unwalled cave or minehole in one's village?