warning to the northern kingdom (aurora)

[ChildhoodObesity]

1.You really shouldn't get salty over getting called an idiot or a loser in an online game. Usually the insults that are thrown around are much more aggressive and if you attacked first, well, it's not surprising that he would strike back. Calling you a tard is more polite than killing your character, imo.
2.By merit, do you mean brute strength? Big fists isn't what makes someone a good king.
3.He probably doesn't want to hand over the crown because he's emotional over the loss of the kingdom. That's not surprising.

I didn't really know him, but I can't shake the impression that people are blowing his "crimes" way, waaaaaaay out of proportion.

you act like people need a solid reason to siege someone in this game, we could siege someone because we just wanted to take their shit. there isnt any salt behind it xd and if personally insulting someone is more polite to you than someone randomly killing your character in a game that allows it im not sure what to think! we just found him annoying and wanted to put him in his place and dedicating a weekend to do it is easy enough. his kingdom wouldnt even have been lost if he handed over the crown, the guy we proposed he give it to wasnt even in our group or AD the guy was actually oathed to NK even. they would rather lose all their buffs which mostly benefit the nabs in the kingdom then just give up king haha nice kingdom btw great leaders

[Havion]

1.You really shouldn't get salty over getting called an idiot or a loser in an online game. Usually the insults that are thrown around are much more aggressive and if you attacked first, well, it's not surprising that he would strike back. Calling you a tard is more polite than killing your character, imo.
2.By merit, do you mean brute strength? Big fists isn't what makes someone a good king.
3.He probably doesn't want to hand over the crown because he's emotional over the loss of the kingdom. That's not surprising.

I didn't really know him, but I can't shake the impression that people are blowing his "crimes" way, waaaaaaay out of proportion.

1. I am only "salty" if I get called names by people I actually respect. It is not being offended that made me want to help destroy Aurora, it's just pure disrespect toward the leader. Calling people names when they kill you in a game is some of the most childish behavior I've seen on Haven and that's saying something considering I've played it for a good 7 years now.
2. By merit I mean everything it takes to make a good faction leader. He poses as a king, but in reality he makes the worst political decisions, assigns a complete retard as a leader of his "army" which is a group of people who, even when outstatting and outnumbering you, they will run away if you attack them, he used his FnI allies to defend Aurora in the last moments while none of his own players were defending, he'd rather the kingdom destroyed than someone else getting the crown, etc. Literally nothing he does makes him a good "king", the positive side is that he makes creative, pretty villages. Do kings only make pretty villages?
3. I'm far from surprised, he's exactly the type of person that would screw over the entire population of a realm because he's butthurt about his larp paradise being broken.

[Adder1234]

you act like people need a solid reason to siege someone in this game, we could siege someone because we just wanted to take their shit. there isnt any salt behind it xd and if personally insulting someone is more polite to you than someone randomly killing your character in a game that allows it im not sure what to think! we just found him annoying and wanted to put him in his place and dedicating a weekend to do it is easy enough. his kingdom wouldnt even have been lost if he handed over the crown, the guy we proposed he give it to wasnt even in our group or AD the guy was actually oathed to NK even. they would rather lose all their buffs which mostly benefit the nabs in the kingdom then just give up king haha nice kingdom btw great leaders

"We attacked them because we wanted to. Now let me explain all of the reasons why we did it."

[Havion]

you act like people need a solid reason to siege someone in this game, we could siege someone because we just wanted to take their shit. there isnt any salt behind it xd and if personally insulting someone is more polite to you than someone randomly killing your character in a game that allows it im not sure what to think! we just found him annoying and wanted to put him in his place and dedicating a weekend to do it is easy enough. his kingdom wouldnt even have been lost if he handed over the crown, the guy we proposed he give it to wasnt even in our group or AD the guy was actually oathed to NK even. they would rather lose all their buffs which mostly benefit the nabs in the kingdom then just give up king haha nice kingdom btw great leaders

"We attacked them because we wanted to. Now let me explain all of the reasons why we did it."

more like "we attacked them not because we're salty, but because [reasons]". not sure what you're getting at.

[ChildhoodObesity]

you act like people need a solid reason to siege someone in this game, we could siege someone because we just wanted to take their shit. there isnt any salt behind it xd and if personally insulting someone is more polite to you than someone randomly killing your character in a game that allows it im not sure what to think! we just found him annoying and wanted to put him in his place and dedicating a weekend to do it is easy enough. his kingdom wouldnt even have been lost if he handed over the crown, the guy we proposed he give it to wasnt even in our group or AD the guy was actually oathed to NK even. they would rather lose all their buffs which mostly benefit the nabs in the kingdom then just give up king haha nice kingdom btw great leaders

"We attacked them because we wanted to. Now let me explain all of the reasons why we did it."

i said you act like we need a reason to not that we didnt have one smhing

[Potjeh]

Trollex you teamed up with Frosty, sorry but you're automatically a tard by association.

[ChildhoodObesity]

Trollex you teamed up with Frosty, sorry but you're automatically a tard by association.

hey!!! just a one time thing!!! temporary tard!

[mgmmads]

1.You really shouldn't get salty over getting called an idiot or a loser in an online game. Usually the insults that are thrown around are much more aggressive and if you attacked first, well, it's not surprising that he would strike back. Calling you a tard is more polite than killing your character, imo.
2.By merit, do you mean brute strength? Big fists isn't what makes someone a good king.
3.He probably doesn't want to hand over the crown because he's emotional over the loss of the kingdom. That's not surprising.

I didn't really know him, but I can't shake the impression that people are blowing his "crimes" way, waaaaaaay out of proportion.

you act like people need a solid reason to siege someone in this game, we could siege someone because we just wanted to take their shit. there isnt any salt behind it xd and if personally insulting someone is more polite to you than someone randomly killing your character in a game that allows it im not sure what to think! we just found him annoying and wanted to put him in his place and dedicating a weekend to do it is easy enough. his kingdom wouldnt even have been lost if he handed over the crown, the guy we proposed he give it to wasnt even in our group or AD the guy was actually oathed to NK even. they would rather lose all their buffs which mostly benefit the nabs in the kingdom then just give up king haha nice kingdom btw great leaders

"We destroy buff, it's dani fault". Every time something is said it contradicts the previous statement. "We are only doing this to get a hit on dani", -> "Now we are destroy buffs" -> "we only raid because we can" -> "He deserved it". -> Draws swastika on the ground -> "it's just a game" -> posts pictures from real life -> uses wrapped logic as an excuse to justify behavior -> "There's no reason to justify behavior in a game". o.O

Just let the events sink in for a second.
Not saying raiding and hating on someone in a game is wrong, it's part of gaming after all. But the second people drag it outside of a game and post pictures from real life, and start screaming "pedophile", "rapist" at someone for 18 hours... It just gets sad and ruins the fun for everyone. =/

[Havion]

"We destroy buff, it's dani fault". Every time something is said it contradicts the previous statement. "We are only doing this to get a hit on dani", -> "Now we are destroy buffs" -> "we only raid because we can" -> "He deserved it". -> Draws swastika on the ground -> "it's just a game" -> posts pictures from real life -> uses wrapped logic as an excuse to justify behavior -> "There's no reason to justify behavior in a game". o.O

Just let the events sink in for a second.
Not saying raiding and hating on someone in a game is wrong, it's part of gaming after all. But the second people drag it outside of a game and start screaming "pedophile", "rapist" at someone for 16 hours... It just gets sad and ruins the fun for everyone. =/

We didn't destroy buffs though. We sieged the kingdom and demanded he give the crown OR we destroy the whole kingdom(and thus the buffs) (if we don't, he can just remake the kingdom idol and gain back kingship). Look at it this way: We are warring the Japanese and warned them to give up as we're obviously much more powerful, if they don't give up we drop the nuke.

Nobody said "we raid because we can". Troll said "we don't need a reason (salt being referenced) to raid, but matter of fact we do have one, it's to put dani in his place"

Nobody except Frost condones putting people's IRL pics into videos.

Again, "it's a game and you can do things without a reason, but hey, we do have a reason".

Pedophile and rapist is claimed by Frosty and the like, again, not by actual respresentatives of either group attacking.

[ven]

"We destroy buff, it's dani fault". Every time something is said it contradicts the previous statement. "We are only doing this to get a hit on dani", -> "Now we are destroy buffs" -> "we only raid because we can" -> "He deserved it". -> Draws swastika on the ground -> "it's just a game" -> posts pictures from real life -> uses wrapped logic as an excuse to justify behavior -> "There's no reason to justify behavior in a game". o.O

Not sure what's going on and that's pretty much how I read it, yeah.