warning to the northern kingdom (aurora)

[Zesto]

"We destroy buff, it's dani fault". Every time something is said it contradicts the previous statement. "We are only doing this to get a hit on dani", -> "Now we are destroy buffs" -> "we only raid because we can" -> "He deserved it". -> Draws swastika on the ground -> "it's just a game" -> posts pictures from real life -> uses wrapped logic as an excuse to justify behavior -> "There's no reason to justify behavior in a game". o.O

Just let the events sink in for a second.
Not saying raiding and hating on someone in a game is wrong, it's part of gaming after all. But the second people drag it outside of a game and post pictures from real life, and start screaming "pedophile", "rapist" at someone for 18 hours... It just gets sad and ruins the fun for everyone. =/

Supriseingly we are not all the same person with the same views but to add to the whole dragging it out of the game thing was probably a bit to far and many people think so although I remeber some NK person sending me a grabify link...

[ChildhoodObesity]

"We destroy buff, it's dani fault". Every time something is said it contradicts the previous statement. "We are only doing this to get a hit on dani", -> "Now we are destroy buffs" -> "we only raid because we can" -> "He deserved it". -> Draws swastika on the ground -> "it's just a game" -> posts pictures from real life -> uses wrapped logic as an excuse to justify behavior -> "There's no reason to justify behavior in a game". o.O

Just let the events sink in for a second.
Not saying raiding and hating on someone in a game is wrong, it's part of gaming after all. But the second people drag it outside of a game and post pictures from real life, and start screaming "pedophile", "rapist" at someone for 18 hours... It just gets sad and ruins the fun for everyone. =/

im justifying my own reasons and maybe a few in my village who share my opinion. i agree that dragging stuff outside of the game like that is retarded and when frost said he would post 30 more pics of him in his next video i responded right away saying its too far. i NEVER once said we only raid because we can please reread that ok i said NO ONE needs a reason to do it. also i dont think our village was involved with the swastikas either.. i dont agree with what ad do on a lot of shit we were just teaming for the raid and i cant control them, if it were entirely up to me i wouldnt of bashed anything but the kingdom/idol and banners. even regarding the kingdom if dani wasnt selfish it would be fine! its not like you guys were thinking of the nabs when you went and bashed all AKIS kingdom buffs anyways lol

[Potjeh]

Seriously, why the fuck would anyone ever willingly associate with Frosty? Couldn't you guys have done this without him?

[mgmmads]

"We destroy buff, it's dani fault". Every time something is said it contradicts the previous statement. "We are only doing this to get a hit on dani", -> "Now we are destroy buffs" -> "we only raid because we can" -> "He deserved it". -> Draws swastika on the ground -> "it's just a game" -> posts pictures from real life -> uses wrapped logic as an excuse to justify behavior -> "There's no reason to justify behavior in a game". o.O

Just let the events sink in for a second.
Not saying raiding and hating on someone in a game is wrong, it's part of gaming after all. But the second people drag it outside of a game and start screaming "pedophile", "rapist" at someone for 16 hours... It just gets sad and ruins the fun for everyone. =/

We didn't destroy buffs though. We sieged the kingdom and demanded he give the crown OR we destroy the whole kingdom(and thus the buffs) (if we don't, he can just remake the kingdom). Look at it this way: We are warring the Japanese and warned them to give up as we're obviously much more powerful, if they don't give up we drop the nuke.

Nobody said "we raid because we can". Troll said "we don't need a reason (salt being referenced) to raid, but matter of fact we do have one, it's to put dani in his place"

Nobody except Frost condones putting people's IRL pics into videos.

Again, "it's a game and you can do things without a reason, but hey, we do have a reason".

Pedophile and rapist is claimed by Frosty and the like, again, not by actual respresentatives of either group attacking.

But let's agree, everyone is grouped in with Dani and aurora, even those who weren't in NK, but tried to help out defending aurora. This automatically groups everyone in with all the activities done by individuals on troll/Aki side, correct? So regardless of one person drawing swastika or everyone drawing 1 square of it, doesn't change that it was "that group". The logic applied to one context have to follow in the next one...
Same goes for your statements here, I used examples from both forum and ingame, while you do the same, but uses the same logic again to dissmiss some of it.
and I don't think anyone cares for there being a reason and logic behind a raid, it's part of the game, just as killing characters or turning carrots are.

[ChildhoodObesity]

"We destroy buff, it's dani fault". Every time something is said it contradicts the previous statement. "We are only doing this to get a hit on dani", -> "Now we are destroy buffs" -> "we only raid because we can" -> "He deserved it". -> Draws swastika on the ground -> "it's just a game" -> posts pictures from real life -> uses wrapped logic as an excuse to justify behavior -> "There's no reason to justify behavior in a game". o.O

Not sure what's going on and that's pretty much how I read it, yeah.

i am french canadian very bad english pls forgive

[Havion]

But let's agree, everyone is grouped in with Dani and aurora, even those who weren't in NK, but tried to help out defending aurora. This automatically groups everyone in with all the activities done by individuals on troll/Aki side, correct?

But we don't agree on that. You were at the siege if I'm not mistaken. You'll recall the fact that we spent a good amount of the siege telling the defenders (mostly FnI) that they're alright and should probably just port home, we're not doing this to harm anyone but Dani, I even took some NK and neutral alts on a tour around the siege camp and a boat trip and shit to have fun, befriended 2 NK noobs and talked with them all day and played chess with one of them all day. just like, to me, Dani doesn't represent the people who live in the northern kingdom (so I don't want to harm those people), frosty putting dani's IRL pic in a video doesn't respresent the beliefs of AD, let alone the temporary alliance with Oddi.

[ChildhoodObesity]

But let's agree, everyone is grouped in with Dani and aurora, even those who weren't in NK, but tried to help out defending aurora. This automatically groups everyone in with all the activities done by individuals on troll/Aki side, correct? So regardless of one person drawing swastika or everyone drawing 1 square of it, doesn't change that it was "that group". The logic applied to one context have to follow in the next one...
Same goes for your statements here, I used examples from both forum and ingame, while you do the same, but uses the same logic again to dissmiss some of it.
and I don't think anyone cares for there being a reason and logic behind a raid, it's part of the game, just as killing characters or turning carrots are.

i dont agree with that though and its not like we would go siege anyone that helped defend NK who didnt live in aurora i actually like everyone in NK excluding dani/hola. danis actions resulted in the punishment of your entire group but that doesnt mean the entire group is also responsible for his actions. you need to realize we are two ENTIRELY different groups who joined together for one common purpose. theres no way for either side to control each other unless we had some things we agreed on beforehand, which we didnt.

[TheOriginalFive]

This certainly reminds me of how New Brodgar fell.

[Ants]

1.You really shouldn't get salty over getting called an idiot or a loser in an online game. Usually the insults that are thrown around are much more aggressive and if you attacked first, well, it's not surprising that he would strike back. Calling you a tard is more polite than killing your character, imo.
2.By merit, do you mean brute strength? Big fists isn't what makes someone a good king.
3.He probably doesn't want to hand over the crown because he's emotional over the loss of the kingdom. That's not surprising.

I didn't really know him, but I can't shake the impression that people are blowing his "crimes" way, waaaaaaay out of proportion.

there isnt any salt behind it xd and if personally insulting someone is more polite to you than someone randomly killing your character in a game that allows it im not sure what to think! we just found him annoying and wanted to put him in his place and dedicating a weekend to do it is easy enough. his kingdom wouldnt even have been lost if he handed over the crown, the guy we proposed he give it to wasnt even in our group or AD the guy was actually oathed to NK even. they would rather lose all their buffs which mostly benefit the nabs in the kingdom then just give up king haha nice kingdom btw great leaders

1. Some of you seem salty. Just look at this post:

Dani paid for his crimes...his pride and joy is gone, something he loved more than his own mother! I will re-upload the video soon...and this time theres going to be about 30 pictures of dani IRL LOL

2. The game allows you to kill, but it also allows you to call others rude names. Both are allowed by in game mechanics. You don't lose hours of work when someone calls you names, though.

As for why he didn't hand over the crown, I have no idea. In my eyes it's not a big deal but I can understand why it might rustle some people's jimmies. If I were in his shoes I'd feel wary of handing over the crown to anyone I didn't trust tbh.

[ChildhoodObesity]

frost isnt one of us and he obviously has his own reasons for sieging NK we are enemies of AKI and just joined together once to siege NK thats it