Alas, My Gentle Quince Tree

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Re: Alas, My Gentle Quince Tree

Postby VDZ » Tue May 11, 2021 8:51 pm

WowGain wrote:there ought to be some sort of crime related to killing questgivers since it can take someone less than a few hours to [kill questgivers]

It's not that easy. You don't get your first quest until you've played for a while, and getting any additional ones after claiming your first victim costs quite a bit of XP. All in all, conscious killing of questgivers takes a lot of time unless they're marked by other players. (Furthermore, as far as I'm aware killing questgivers does not reduce the number of questgivers in the area - the spirit just moves to another tree/rock.)

ogey wrote:I also planted a mayflower tree nearby to later chop down but ended up receiving a quest from it.

Interesting, this is the first time I've heard about a player getting a quest from a planted tree.
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Re: Alas, My Gentle Quince Tree

Postby MagicManICT » Wed May 12, 2021 1:00 am

VDZ wrote:It's not that easy. You don't get your first quest until you've played for a while, and getting any additional ones after claiming your first victim costs quite a bit of XP. All in all, conscious killing of questgivers takes a lot of time unless they're marked by other players. (Furthermore, as far as I'm aware killing questgivers does not reduce the number of questgivers in the area - the spirit just moves to another tree/rock.)


You do keep getting whispers if you have no quests, but if I understand right, the timer keeps getting longer and longer each time you abandon one. Last time I tested the timer was w10, and it took abandoning dozens of quests to lengthy it any significant time. Things have changed since then, though.

VDZ wrote:Interesting, this is the first time I've heard about a player getting a quest from a planted tree.

First time YOU'VE heard about it. ;) FWIW, jorb has hinted at this. (One wonders if a quality tree would give better quality quest rewards... :twisted:
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Re: Alas, My Gentle Quince Tree

Postby The_Lich_King » Wed May 12, 2021 4:50 am

MagicManICT wrote:
VDZ wrote:It's not that easy. You don't get your first quest until you've played for a while, and getting any additional ones after claiming your first victim costs quite a bit of XP. All in all, conscious killing of questgivers takes a lot of time unless they're marked by other players. (Furthermore, as far as I'm aware killing questgivers does not reduce the number of questgivers in the area - the spirit just moves to another tree/rock.)


You do keep getting whispers if you have no quests, but if I understand right, the timer keeps getting longer and longer each time you abandon one. Last time I tested the timer was w10, and it took abandoning dozens of quests to lengthy it any significant time. Things have changed since then, though.

VDZ wrote:Interesting, this is the first time I've heard about a player getting a quest from a planted tree.

First time YOU'VE heard about it. ;) FWIW, jorb has hinted at this. (One wonders if a quality tree would give better quality quest rewards... :twisted:


Time to design a scientific experiment.

Somebody should plant a Q 10 tree, then plant the highest Q tree they can, then abandon quest givers until the two planted trees become quest givers... then compare the results.
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Re: Alas, My Gentle Quince Tree

Postby VDZ » Wed May 12, 2021 5:20 am

MagicManICT wrote:
VDZ wrote:Interesting, this is the first time I've heard about a player getting a quest from a planted tree.

First time YOU'VE heard about it. ;) FWIW, jorb has hinted at this.

Yes, I've heard hints and speculation, but this is the first time I've seen it actually confirmed.
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Re: Alas, My Gentle Quince Tree

Postby mvgulik » Wed May 12, 2021 7:02 am

The_Lich_King wrote:Somebody should plant a Q 10 tree, then plant the highest Q tree they can, then abandon quest givers until the two planted trees become quest givers... then compare the results.

lol, yea. never mind all the other nearby tree's and boulders.
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Re: Alas, My Gentle Quince Tree

Postby WowGain » Wed May 12, 2021 10:27 am

VDZ wrote:
WowGain wrote:there ought to be some sort of crime related to killing questgivers since it can take someone less than a few hours to [kill questgivers]
It's not that easy. You don't get your first quest until you've played for a while, and getting any additional ones after claiming your first victim costs quite a bit of XP. All in all, conscious killing of questgivers takes a lot of time unless they're marked by other players. (Furthermore, as far as I'm aware killing questgivers does not reduce the number of questgivers in the area - the spirit just moves to another tree/rock.)



its piss easy
a group of about 3 people killed 20-something quest givers within 5 or 6 hours just last week in my area. It was every single quest tree within nearly 3 provinces, and none of them were marked.
it doesn't reduce the total amount but it does cause literally everyone who had a quest from that tree (including credo quests) to then fail that quest and potentially be set back on a credo as if they had abandoned.
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Re: Alas, My Gentle Quince Tree

Postby ogey » Wed May 12, 2021 11:02 am

I don't know if it's relevant but the tree I planted was seed straight to the ground. I don't think using a treeplanter's pot will magically invalidate your tree from becoming a quest giver but who knows.
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Re: Alas, My Gentle Quince Tree

Postby Kolrim » Sun May 23, 2021 7:44 am

DoverianDragoon wrote:
I suppose if she raised the dandelion q that much I'd be pretty mad at her, too!


Why would dandelion q being high be a bad thing?
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Re: Alas, My Gentle Quince Tree

Postby mvgulik » Sun May 23, 2021 8:15 am

DoverianDragoon wrote:[Sarcasm] I suppose if she raised the dandelion q that much I'd be pretty mad at her, too! [/Sarcasm]
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Re: Alas, My Gentle Quince Tree

Postby DoverianDragoon » Sun May 23, 2021 8:52 am

Kolrim wrote:
DoverianDragoon wrote:
I suppose if she raised the dandelion q that much I'd be pretty mad at her, too!


Why would dandelion q being high be a bad thing?


Eh... it's not that high dandelion q would be bad. It's that there are so many quest rewards one would rather receive. But I liked this tree for her name and her location and for how often I'd be sent to see her. She was just... a nice tree.
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