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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Apocoreo » Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:40 am

Vatas, shouldn't the thread on the forum's been enough? If so, it sounds like an issue to take up with your management. We've also been told by Jorb plenty that Discord drama doesn't count, so I dunno why you're asking for Discord screenshots now. If that's considered evidence that could get him banned now I hope someone with the screenshots does make the gallery but at this point it just seems like you, meaning Jorbtar and the moderation team, aren't going to do anything to matter what. I don't envy your position if the policy on Discord screenshots just changed because there's no keeping track of it on my end.
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby vatas » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:56 am

Apocoreo wrote:Vatas, shouldn't the thread on the forum's been enough? If so, it sounds like an issue to take up with your management. We've also been told by Jorb plenty that Discord drama doesn't count, so I dunno why you're asking for Discord screenshots now. If that's considered evidence that could get him banned now I hope someone with the screenshots does make the gallery but at this point it just seems like you, meaning Jorbtar and the moderation team, aren't going to do anything to matter what. I don't envy your position if the policy on Discord screenshots just changed because there's no keeping track of it on my end.

There have been rather damning forum screenshots floating around, as well. Granted, some of them were lost when Jorb deleted some earlier versions of this thread.

Still, if the people supposedly having "genuine concern" had stuck with documenting and compiling this evidence into a single accessible location, and responding primarily by linking that location...
Good chance that Jorb wouldn't have deleted the thread and/or took the anti-Misa side.
Good chance I would've had the somewhat knee-jerk response to permaban TheServant account here on forums.

Instead, the whole mess was reduced into a partisan flame war.

My biggest personal mistake was to effectively treat Snail's DMs as a "red herring" (not saying it was intentional on his part) as nobody else sent me a Discord DM or a forum PM, and I assumed he would include the most damning evidence without it being in this format:
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(bricks and rubble = the "4 screenshots" I initially yapped about)
(Saddam Husein = an entire Imgur gallery)
(Again, both are just Discord screenshots, but it likely would've led me to dig through 'TheServant' posts on the forum and issue ban or at least compile most egregious ones and link them to Jorb in a PM and recommend a ban.)
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Dawidio123 » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:47 am

vatas wrote:Still, if the people supposedly having "genuine concern" had stuck with documenting and compiling this evidence into a single accessible location, and responding primarily by linking that location...
Good chance that Jorb wouldn't have deleted the thread and/or took the anti-Misa side.
Good chance I would've had the somewhat knee-jerk response to permaban TheServant account here on forums.

You are correct saying that it could've been handled a bit better, but I would also put a part of the blame on ppl fervently brigading and derailing all the threads concerning him, you can see it pretty clearly in this one when noneck started posting double and basically spamming after i posted the imgurs. I mistakenly believed everyone has already seen all the things that are in the imgurs, and so did probably everyone else, hence why it was so obvious to all of us why he should be gone, so instead of trying to link the evidence over and over we got into shit throwing competition with the ones defending them which lead to jorb removing the thread, probably along with a certain individual whispering into his ear that ppl are targeting misa and doxxing him in that thread (iirc that's what jorb said even though the thread had no doxxing at all, which leads me to believe it was someone feeding him those lies).

And yet the most damning evidence is in the thread from which i barely saved 4-5 posts (I'd like to say these were the worst ones but there was literally like 10 pages of stuff of similar caliber) before it got completely removed, or well, hidden from the forums. If Jorb needs more damning evidence he can go and look for it himself in that thread, I would do it if i could access it.

I personally urge you to speak with Jorb about it even if it's a bit too late for that, since an outright ban even though completely justified (objectively) would probably cause a lot of bad actors to target you. This topic will keep being brought up in the communities and it's honestly just not a good look for a game on steam release to have an individual who said these kinds of things parading proudly in the main community forum basically provoking people into bringing those things up. Because I personally try to remain civil and maintain some decorum, even when it comes to doing a lil trolling and shittalk (all in good fun i believe), but i refuse to hold myself to the same standards when speaking to that individual.
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby overtyped » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:59 am

Dawidio123 wrote:
vatas wrote:Still, if the people supposedly having "genuine concern" had stuck with documenting and compiling this evidence into a single accessible location, and responding primarily by linking that location...
Good chance that Jorb wouldn't have deleted the thread and/or took the anti-Misa side.
Good chance I would've had the somewhat knee-jerk response to permaban TheServant account here on forums.

You are correct saying that it could've been handled a bit better, but I would also put a part of the blame on ppl fervently brigading and derailing all the threads concerning him, you can see it pretty clearly in this one when noneck started posting double and basically spamming after i posted the imgurs. I mistakenly believed everyone has already seen all the things that are in the imgurs, and so did probably everyone else, hence why it was so obvious to all of us why he should be gone, so instead of trying to link the evidence over and over we got into shit throwing competition with the ones defending them which lead to jorb removing the thread, probably along with a certain individual whispering into his ear that ppl are targeting misa and doxxing him in that thread (iirc that's what jorb said even though the thread had no doxxing at all, which leads me to believe it was someone feeding him those lies).

And yet the most damning evidence is in the thread from which i barely saved 4-5 posts (I'd like to say these were the worst ones but there was literally like 10 pages of stuff of similar caliber) before it got completely removed, or well, hidden from the forums. If Jorb needs more damning evidence he can go and look for it himself in that thread, I would do it if i could access it.

I personally urge you to speak with Jorb about it even if it's a bit too late for that, since an outright ban even though completely justified (objectively) would probably cause a lot of bad actors to target you. This topic will keep being brought up in the communities and it's honestly just not a good look for a game on steam release to have an individual who said these kinds of things parading proudly in the main community forum basically provoking people into bringing those things up. Because I personally try to remain civil and maintain some decorum, even when it comes to doing a lil trolling and shittalk (all in good fun i believe), but i refuse to hold myself to the same standards when speaking to that individual.

Nice, now you are resorting to long walls of text, regurgitating the same thing once more, but you're absolutely right, this isn't a good look at all. Yet, despite yourself, you're caught in a cycle, unable to resist that tourettes reflex to bring up Misa in every single post.

Jorb has already seen all the evidence, yet here you are, tirelessly flogging the same tired horse, again and again. You are a parody of yourself at this point, but maybe if you say it again for the 1000th time, Jorb will feel as much cringe as we all do, and save us all from this boredom.

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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:52 am

vatas wrote:My biggest personal mistake was to effectively treat Snail's DMs as a "red herring"


this is the link I sent you as proof: https://discord.com/channels/1194708350 ... 1132230656

Leads directly to somebody posting these imagines:
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8 lines below this imgur album: https://imgur.com/a/jiO4AuH

a few lines above:
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At the time I had reported several of his messages which I imagine were still being processed in which he not very subtly bragged about getting away with the rape (unless nonek was yeeting that I forget the timeline)

It was within a week of several threads being made and deleted containing all of the above proof any more. I admit it would've been better if I shoved it down your throat more, but I feel this is a reasonable level of proof. Who cares tho, the past is in the past.

I can understand a disinterested person not really being sure what's up. Noinek, Overtyped and robben have been working overtime trying to make these threads as incomprehensible and thick to somebody not super invested as possible. It's probably why Misa has gotten to brag about raping a fucking kid like 10 times in them before they get deleted without punishment, because jorb was not willing to read through all that garbage. If I were a passerby who didn't rly care about this place I'd just skim like 2 pages and conclude since >half the posts in all these threads are from those three and they're dumb as fuck pedophile accusations against like 12 different people that the same is being done to Misa.

Anyway, I would again like to formally request that Misa, Noinek, Robben, and Overtyped be banned/curfewed for bragging about raping a kid on the forum/weird sympathizer behavior/accusing like 12 other people of the same.

Not only do I think this is morally right, but all this shit personally makes me very uncomfortable, and it seems like a very bad look for the game that there has been more talk about the community having a pedophile in the last month than about the new world/steam release lol
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Kaios » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:03 pm

Talking about brigading like he doesn’t have a whole discord brigade spamming the forum on a daily basis lol
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:09 pm

The majority of people talking shit about Misa are in the same public discord because the vast majority of the active community is in that discord. In 1-2 weeks we will be trying our hardest to murder each other and talking mad shit in PVP chat. There is one (1) post in this thread from somebody I talk to privately.

It's not a conspiracy that everybody is against the child rapist. People just don't like child rapists.
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Kaios » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:31 pm

and one (1) inch in your pants
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:43 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:I'm just going to choose to believe you're angee over me bullying you in game and not thinking about what you're saying


It makes me feel a little bit better when you confirm this. The alternative would be worse be worse lol

I feel like you could find a better outlet for your anger than trying to distract people from Misa bragging about raping a kid just because you don't like the people upset about it
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Kaios » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:51 pm

Why are you complaining to vatas anyways, latest iteration of useless moderator isn't going to do anything about it. He can't even be bothered to deal with shitty threads like this one.
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