Per Jorb's request: Austin VS WB Discourse

[Austinh15]

Please continue it here thank you

Chronological Order for coherent and civil discourse:

I stand by what I said, though I have agreed (of course also forced) to take it to private channels. I have no cronies, nor did I ask for any assistance with that post. It is incredibly regrettable to see how the now-deleted thread turned into two factions trying to overtalk one another when I had a legitimate concern and have been concerned for a long time, ever since the messages were sent. I have attempted multiple times to be clear on my intentions yet you continue to lump my own opinions in with "sides" within a game. Please understand that I really do want the best for this community. I know you don't believe that, but it's the truth. I won't speak of the post or its contents any further within the forums. This is now between Jorb and I, as he requested. And before you try and use it against me. Yes I did fight against Whatever Bay in December during the siege. No this has nothing to do with factional disagreements so stop belittling the topic to such.

Thank you.

Such lies. You lot and your alts have been Jorbs mouthpiece for years.

He may not realize, but the discord has slowly become 1 voice. It's become a kind of 4chan clone, that exists for picking out specific people and systemtically bullying them, and getting Jorb to do things that benefit your little group. He's been listening to the same 20 4chan trolls for years.

So much crap is thrown daily on discord that nobody with a conscious is left. I mean, who would want to be covered in crap besides you lot?
I didn't say anything when your 1 voice got dakkan unbanned, and while I'm not gonna lower myself to join the discord, at least on the forums, i'm not gonna let your group have the only say again. Even if Jorb is too senile to see it, i'm gonna keep repeating what's actually happening.

I don't think he's senile I think he's having a lot of information thrown at him by two different sides and knowing who to listen to and who to ignore is a very difficult thing to do when both sides are carefully crafting narratives in back channels. I personally wanted to keep what I say public so that people know where I stand. Dude doesn't have to do anything for anyone, including me. I just had a lot of my village (Oppidia for your info, not snail co) who are close friends reach out (EDIT: to me, not the forums) about how disgusting the comments made were. With Jorb and Loftar being back, and with the person who I will not name being more active (Steam discussions and forums), I felt it was time to speak up about it again. It's easier for you to assume there's a conspiracy going on than to accept that a large portion of the community is upset with your friend's comments and actions.

I would like Jorb to realize one thing. Whenever the 20 trolls want something, they'll all suddenly start posting the same thing together, with the goal of giving the impression that it's what everyone wants.

Autstin, the alt, is pretending he is some kind person with a conscious, meanwhile he makes threads publically bullying Misa after concocting this plan together in discord.

And now, he, and the SAME 20 trolls have once more come together to try to get oddity/ardennes modded by crafting a narrative that it's what the people want. I know you have been falling for this same trick over and over, just like I know that cesspool of a discord, is what caused noindy to get unmodded.

Would an alt have an entire village of 12 and two separate servers for said village with a layout of channels for his friends to converse in you belligerent out-of-control conspiracy freak? Jesus Christ dude I'm a REAL PERSON.

both sides are carefully crafting narratives in back channels.

This has to be the funniest admission in the world. We aren't, but you just said you are.

It's easier for you to assume there's a conspiracy going on than to accept that a large portion of the community is upset with your friend's comments and actions.

Nice gaslight. You literally just said you are carefully crafting narratives in back channels, then accused us of assuming there is a conspiracy.

Your "carefully crafted narratives" have been used to push SoS nerfs, No!nek removal, your Misa "complaint," to generally drive out those you don't like from the community, and now to attempt to handpick a mod of your choosing.

You're right that Jorb isn't "old and senile" though. I like to think he had enough faith in humanity that he thought your suggestions and complaints were made in good faith. It seems like he's finally becoming jaded enough with this process that he's starting to see they aren't in good faith.

both sides are carefully crafting narratives in back channels.

This has to be the funniest admission in the world. We aren't, but you just said you are.

It's easier for you to assume there's a conspiracy going on than to accept that a large portion of the community is upset with your friend's comments and actions.

Nice gaslight. You literally just said you are carefully crafting narratives in back channels, then accused us of assuming there is a conspiracy.

Your "carefully crafted narratives" have been used to push SoS nerfs, No!nek removal, your Misa "complaint," to generally drive out those you don't like from the community, and now to attempt to handpick a mod of your choosing.

You're right that Jorb isn't "old and senile" though. I like to think he had enough faith in humanity that he thought your suggestions and complaints were made in good faith. It seems like he's finally becoming jaded enough with this process that he's starting to see they aren't in good faith.

Robben, I'm not on either side. I assume both you and them are whispering in Jorb's ear, and this has been happening for a while. Are you telling me your amazing guess of a steam release a couple of weeks ago was happenstance? Do you wish for me to believe that the 30,000 Robben alts aren't someone who hates you? I know I'm 25 but I have a few years of context under my belt.

Also, every time I talk to you its you breaking up what I said for specific points. I get others do that, but bad faith is bad faith. I've yet to twist yours, or any of Bob's words. Every time I speak you try and use me like some kind of gotcha card. It's why I usually don't respond to you. You just always talk to me in bad faith.

Please continue Robben, have at thee nerd.
EDIT: (Funny shitty obligatory meme where the snail in my ear puppets me around like a shadow government)
https://youtu.be/1lWA2KEvC-A?si=cvASI6r540sdfF4N

[Shitten_DuPants]

it’s simple. You badmouthed my beloved pedophile. No trick in the gaslighters playbook is too slimy for scum like you, trying to isolate a member from MY kingdom with the fact that he groomed and slept with a child (legal age in his country!)

Hell, we’ve managed to train Mad Dog Doles so well he was Whataboutisming for hours last night while I was asleep!

[Robertzon]

both sides are mentally unstable for yapping about some br rando meanwhile we haven't even talked about what bird should they add next patch

[joojoo1975]

What is there to continue?

Have you called the authorities? or even went online to live a tip? https://report.cybertip.org/

You already know what could happen when using the forums as a badge especially when dealing with discord servers?






We get it, you two do not like each other. FFS there is not even a New World to kill each other in yet. I mean we could do it in W15, but honestly the end has been called so what's the point.

edited for grammer

[Austinh15]

What is there to continue?

Have you called the authorities? or even went online to live a tip? https://report.cybertip.org/

You already know what could happen when using the forums as a badge especially when dealing with discord servers?






We get it, you two do not like each other. FFS there is not even a New World to kill each other in yet. I mean we could do it in W15, but honestly the end has been called so what's the point.

edited for grammer

Oh, sorry I guess I wasn't clear enough with the title, will fix. This is about Robben accusing me of being a "Evil side" Haven sock puppet basically. I'm trying to not speak about the other one due to a request I aim to oblige from Jorb to follow the avenues you're suggesting.

[joojoo1975]

Oh, sorry I guess I wasn't clear enough with the title, will fix. This is about Robben accusing me of being a "Evil side" Haven sock puppet basically. I'm trying to not speak about the other one due to a request I aim to oblige from Jorb to follow the avenues you're suggesting.

And here is the Main reason I hate long intervals between worlds. If W16 started today, these forums would be a ghost town. Come on J&L. Start W16 NOW



Now on to this. OK, but who are you trying to convince?

your side, no reason to
their side, not gonna happen

The ones who read the forums regularly(like me) most of us has already made out decision on most if not all parties involved.



The ones who are totally clueless? does it matter?

[Austinh15]

Oh, sorry I guess I wasn't clear enough with the title, will fix. This is about Robben accusing me of being a "Evil side" Haven sock puppet basically. I'm trying to not speak about the other one due to a request I aim to oblige from Jorb to follow the avenues you're suggesting.

And here is the Main reason I hate long intervals between worlds. If W16 started today, these forums would be a ghost town. Come on J&L. Start W16 NOW



Now on to this. OK, but who are you trying to convince?

your side, no reason to
their side, not gonna happen

The ones who read the forums regularly(like me) most of us has already made out decision on most if not all parties involved.



The ones who are totally clueless? does it matter?

Honestly I think I've started this for me. I at least want it public where I stand. Most of what I've done the past 48 hours has been for my friends, not me. And by friends I mean my current village mates in Oppidia. I may have fought against whatever bay but we all had our reasons to be there. Snail Co being a part of that side has made it a really easy punching bag, just as "the person I won't name" being a part of whatever bay also makes it an easy punching bag.

I think I'm caught in the middle of a war zone with a single rifle and one round, and I shot it last night LOL. Which is fine. I said my piece, people saw it, Jorb saw it. Now I'm here to hopefully at least discuss where I stand and clear up misconceptions if for no one but myself. I get Bob Dole and Robben are most likely upset with what I've said, but I tried not to tie them to the conversation yesterday.

[caz]

let those nerds think what they wanna think, the real g's know who you are

[Dawidio123]

I do think there is no further point to discuss this whole thing, everyone reasonable agrees with you. Those that don't won't because they care more about forum pvp and ingame "factions" n shit rather than the common good. All you can do is inform the new players, especially the young ones that will come with steam of dangers of certain groups due to REDACTED.

They will accuse you of being in a group that whispers into jorb's ear while it's pretty clear they are doing that, they just don't want any potential competition. I mean let's be honest, Robben posting about more frequent resets and then steam and then it happening is not bcs the devs read the forums, it's because he is right there whispering sweet lies into their ears as a great leader of a big faction that 1v5d all other factions with 0 outside help (And they are naïve enough to consider him a good actor in the whole scheme of things). Same reason your thread was shat on by bob dole, and then jorb deleted it and cleaned WB thread, it would be dumb to assume he wasn't up there crying to jorbo all night about how the evil doxxers (which is why jorb said that it's doxxing while it isn't) are bullying his innocent villager and accusing him with fabricated claims (that he admitted to). Then he will say you are the one who is trying to project a certain narrative, while he freely accuses you and your friends of being doxxers with literally 0 proof while having doxxers in his own village (but that's okay bcs they're friends).

I mean I can't count how many times someone from "our" side of the siege got accused of being a doxxer on the forums with 0 proof or repercussions. And yet if you accuse their member of something AND provide enough proof for at least reasonable doubt of his innocence then it's bullying/doxxing/etc.

There is literally no point to argue with any of those old men who only feel power in their lives through the forums and ingame reputation (they are probably like 30+ at this point lol).

[Rebs]

*Eats Popcorn*

You know, you are not meant to reply to trolls. Let alone make a thread to fuel the fire that feeds them -They are already multiplying as is it.