Who's flag is "Im fine" on snekkja?

[Archipenos]

Pretty sure he mighta belonged to a village i, hilariously, had just traded with. (Wheelchair Market is their charter) Cannot confirm. In any case he whacked me on a snekk. I know PvP is a core part of the game. I don't want it removed. Maybe really not even changed. It's more just like:

Is it actually fun to kill defenseless characters? It was over in i'd say 3 seconds or so. Zero counterplay: there is no universe in which I "outskill" or "outplay" a guy getting fed sausages for 3 weeks straight by his slaves. Can't outrun the snekkja. If you have 220 strength, and i have 80, and your village gave you all your equipment while I have to make my own, you didn't even achieve anything by killing me. If anything you've achieved, frankly, less. Someone else handed you the ability to click the 1 key six times in a row. You didn't even earn that.

It's the hardest part of this game's pvp to get used to. It is, essentially, the exact opposite of skill based. Big number wins 100% of the time, point blank, no discussion. I even like the threat of pvp, it makes picking little flowers so exciting. At the end of the day when it happens though, it is just kind of wildly underwhelming. It really is unironically the worst possible combat system. Out of hundreds of games I haven't seen one worse. The dude who killed me did nothing. A month gone because some cunt pressed the 1 key five or six times. I can't stress it enough: The dude who killed me earned nothing, was handed his character by his village, used no skill, and there was zero potential for counterplay.

Anyways I made a new guy. Then I realized, shit, i'm done. I've played on and off since w6 and honestly, I'm glad the game is dying. I've been pk'd before, but it just felt different this time. It's always been because I had something they wanted, even if it was only to not have a neighbor. It'd feel better if he needed anything I had, but he didn't. Threw it all in the river. Really do be like that. If I had 4-12 people force feeding me for a month I could have pressed 1 at him back. Unfortunately I didn't have that. The irony is if it had been reversed, and I was fed the sausage, he would have lost genuinely probably a quarter of the play time that I did, because pvpers don't play haven, they click 1.

[whateverisfine]

literally skill issue

[Archipenos]

literally skill issue

That's the joke. I actually finally sat down last world and learned combat, and it clicked: It really is just number wins. It's that empty. Big number presses 1, small number loses a month. I deleted this hoe and I'm out. The only counterplay I have is to irl contribute to the death of the game by not playing. Get outplayed, big guy.

[joojoo1975]

A long time ago. I want to say it was different. But honestly I do not really know. I used to be PvPish back in W3 but ever since the new LP change and then the numerous combat changes. I never pursued it again. It was also a different time and player base then.

[azrid]

why play solo if you don't want to suffer?
I don't think theres a balance patch coming that will ever let you fair fight someone from an organized group.

[Archipenos]

why play solo if you don't want to suffer?
I don't think theres a balance patch coming that will ever let you fair fight someone from an organized group.

No, I dont think there is. I also dont use alts because using alts is just circumventing permadeath and reducing resource scarcity for yourself (lp gain and FEP management on back up characters so that your main doesn't have to make hard decisions about what to invest in.) I also dont use a custom client capable of playing the game for me. I do use Ender's cause it's so similar to vanilla.

All three (the third less so) are just ways to remove permadeath from the game. On top of having characters handed to you by other players, it's just kinda not worth it. The greatest irony is that the dude who killed me could have done it without touching his keyboard or mouse. Dude probably had a script for it and everything.

[Saxony4]

Pretty sure he mighta belonged to a village i, hilariously, had just traded with

Did you happen to have whatever you bought on you when it happened? It's possible they sold you a scented item and then hunted you down to collect it back in typical fashion.
Also I'm assuming he drowned you or something which would be a skill issue for not rowing in shallows, and or immediately heading to shore and running as far as you can to avoid your death. It's crazy how often I see sprucecaps getting drowned in their dugouts because they don't realize shallows are their best friend.

[Archipenos]

Pretty sure he mighta belonged to a village i, hilariously, had just traded with

skill issue

Is it a skill issue to not know a thing integral to an event if the thing cannot be known prior to the event? I figure you mean game knowledge. The game knowledge I'm dependant on a third party wiki for? I used to play Darkfall and stuff, im boned up for pvp in games, dont get me wrong. For the above stated reasons I can't in good conscious do my part to maintain the player base.

It isnt a pvp game for the pvpers. It's the most insane thing. Other people give them stats, alts prevent them from experiencing permadeath, they use pvp clients that automate combat, there is no self defense to speak of. The farmer should take for himself the sausage and nutjerky and throw from himself the yoke of the useless tyrant. The smith should make for himself the sword and keep for himself the spoils it allows.

And if I cannot, numerically or otherwise, defend myself: is there even pvp in the game? Who is the second player?

It might seem like just another carebear post, but honestly, I've been a life long full loot pvp/permadeath (when possible) game enjoyer and this one has genuine fundamental issues that, i believe, may not be possibly addressed.

Not to mention im a dirty commie and having 95% of the playerbase feeding stats to 5% of the playerbase so that 5% of the playerbase can kill 95% of the playerbase is just kind of rock stupid. Why not seize the means of sausage making? Answer: it wont work is why, because combat really, genuinely is just checking one number against another to see which is larger.

[Saxony4]

Is it a skill issue to not know a thing integral to an event if the thing cannot be known prior to the event?

Is it a skill issue to not understand the game mechanics and not read up on the wiki? The answer is yes.
It should actually be common sense for you to realize that if you end up in deep water without a boat you'll drown. I watched a stream of some dude playing HnH the other day when this exact situation occurred and they of course rowed away from shallow water instead of going towards it.
You can defend yourself by learning how to not be clueless and to abandon learned helplessness. A lot of this game is actually psychological, if you let the average terrorist who plays this game ruin your day they absolutely will.

[Archipenos]

Is it a skill issue to not know a thing integral to an event if the thing cannot be known prior to the event?

Cope

No.