Ascending to a legend - a hafen story

[Senretsu]

I have to agree the whole chilsd predation angle for raiding WB was a larp and an excuse to raid Wb as well, having been there. Didn't know you also came from Eve razzy. As do I. And any other Eve player worth his salt has seen this whole act and play a thousand times before Eg. CODE and the new halaima cpde of conduct. Its all a larp and a scam to justify the way they go around skullbuggering new players. So snails lil gang and the fall of Wb hardly surprises me.

Yes, Wb was full of spies and traitors. I was there in w14 (or was it 15? I lose track often) and back when the whole village was like 50 hardcore players we lived until worlds end without any real drama or problems to speak of. It was a gleaming metropolis of meteorite towers and gold plated everything.

The big problem was the steam launch and the massive amounts of noob players Rosku and the others tried to take on in this world. We were drowning in spruce hats and other noobs and care bears who refused to train pvp skills up or learn pvp combat to defend the village. Countless heaps of dead weight players who expected to come in, contribute virtually nothing yet receive the protection of abs militia whom I used to be a part of back when I still gave a shit about protecting all the casuals who log in once every 9 days to consume all our curios and food and then log offf for another 9 while everyone else does all the hard work.

Anyway, we ballooned from like 50 players to more like 150 and it seems rosk and the others were just recruiting willy nilly and vetting pretty much no one. Countless players who were just picking up the game for the first time via steam. Wb was also the first to advertise itself on the hnh steam forum so of course, we were burdened with all these noobs and spruce hats who thought they were coming into a Farmville slash Stardew valley type of happy little crafting game where everyone respects each others feelings and pvp is strictly consensual, not, of course, the hard code survival crafting open pvp game all us oldbies know hnh is and always has been and probab;y always will be...

Let me tell you something else, I also don't really blame the snail gang for what happened in wb. The communication from above also virtually stopped entirely. It took over a week for me to get access to the mines and by the. it was too late. And rosku and all them ran away weeks before the wall fell and basically used the rest of us as human shields while they ran away.

Paving swastilas around our sw area that was breached and spamming the n word while killing spruce hats is very reprehensible behavior in any game however and there was 100% some snailites doin this during the siege and I think this kind of racism and toxicity needs to be a banworthy offense that Jorb and Loftar need to crack down on. Snail, you need to discipline your people not to do this as well. I'm an old war horse with 17 years of eve 1000 man battles under my belt and we don't fight like that over there. Its very bad form and its bad for the game and community. You should all know better and be ashamed of such behavior. Just the toxic bits, I'm all for pvp.

And that was my point, while snail and them were laying waste to the village, I made my way over with my alt to kee[ tabs on what was happening and even had some conversation with them while my main was packing up and getting the hell iut of dodge. Spruce hats were being allowed to leave the village if they stayed out of the way. Others were granted safe passage for token offerings such as a cow. I don't like to think of you as bad people or players because thats not what I witnessed while one of the last players manning our walls.

Anyway, I guess I'm rambling a bit off topic here. I hardly come to these forums nut thought I'd chime in for once since I observed an awful lot while I was acting as the fly on the wall these past couple years. Using Misa as your excuse to raid the village was all fine and good with me. but it was just a thin excuse, I've encountered the type countless times before. Seen that play and act used countless times in countless games.

Is razzbane a traitor? Idk tbh. Could be. Espionage and traitors is extremely common in eve, where a lot of us come from. But hnh players, especially noobs like all the steam noobs, are bewildered and puzzled by such behavior. All I can say is during wbs golden Era of w14 or whenever I never had a problem with the guy. Interacted with him often and never saw anything suss. Yet I do believe its possible.

In a closing statement, Id like to congratulate snail and them on destroying wb. It was a historic moment of the game and was very exciting to witness. Peak content and drama imo. Hard to dispute you are the kings of the game after such a display.

But that nude alt guy running around paving swastikas and spamming the N word? Please get a hold of that guys leash. That was just immature and its bad for the game. Please grow up and don't do that. Ty. Thats all I guess.

[sentry]

Anyway, I guess I'm rambling a bit off topic here. I hardly come to these forums nut thought I'd chime in for once since I observed an awful lot while I was acting as the fly on the wall these past couple years. Using Misa as your excuse to raid the village was all fine and good with me. but it was just a thin excuse, I've encountered the type countless times before. Seen that play and act used countless times in countless games.

I'm curious about something as a bystander. If that was just a thin excuse why not stop associating with Misa for that community project to prove your point (no idea if that was already the case)? It was hard to sympathize with your group after what was said on the forum by certain members of WB and no effort to distance yourself from them.

[MightySheep]

We were drowning in spruce hats and other noobs and care bears who refused to train pvp skills up or learn pvp combat to defend the village. Countless heaps of dead weight players who expected to come in, contribute virtually nothing yet receive the protection of abs militia

Sry wut? Protection? Where was the protection? I never saw 1 defender in siege, they ditched almost instantly. Wat protection they are supposed to be so grateful for? How can you mass recruit new players then turn around and blame them lmao. They got pranked, baited, bamboozled. Dont frame it as anything other than a mass trolling of new players by WB lol. The idea that they are to blame for not defending themselves after wb core aggro whole server sound like some internal propaganda u been made to believe

[Leon232]

We were drowning in spruce hats and other noobs and care bears who refused to train pvp skills up or learn pvp combat to defend the village. Countless heaps of dead weight players who expected to come in, contribute virtually nothing yet receive the protection of abs militia

Sry wut? Protection? Where was the protection? I never saw 1 defender in siege, they ditched almost instantly. Wat protection they are supposed to be so grateful for? How can you mass recruit new players then turn around and blame them lmao. They got pranked, baited, bamboozled. Dont frame it as anything other than a mass trolling of new players by WB lol. The idea that they are to blame for not defending themselves after wb core aggro whole server sound like some internal propaganda u been made to believe

Kinda have to side with you on this one.......Leadership was the issue not the masses. You expected such a large group of people with vast differences in knowledge to coordinate any form of defense when there wasn't a peep out of leadership? You couldve had the sprucecaps doing all kinds of stuff and i watched a week go by with people BEGGING to be told a plan to contribute and protect their collective assets. once it became clear leadership left.....the only recourse was to secure your own assets as best you could.

On the comment about the guy doing the swaztikas and stuff.......i honestly think we should tripple down on the toxicity and spam every corner of the map with it.....then post all of that on the Steam Page......Devs need to do more Moderation