Bone Mother's Market

[Lightning2]

LOL @ all the people pretending combat system has actual depth. It's a simple stat/quality comparison, and whoever has higher numbers wins by default.

Actually has some depth

[loskierek]

LOL @ all the people pretending combat system has actual depth. It's a simple stat/quality comparison, and whoever has higher numbers wins by default.

are you telling me that a group of 10 noobs with higher stats would beat a group of 10 dedicated pvpers solely based on the fact they have higher stats?

[BigCountry]

If the 10 dedicated pvpers had low stat/q comparison absolutely. That was kind of his point

[Sephiron]

LOL @ all the people pretending combat system has actual depth. It's a simple stat/quality comparison, and whoever has higher numbers wins by default.

are you telling me that a group of 10 noobs with higher stats would beat a group of 10 dedicated pvpers solely based on the fact they have higher stats?

Are you telling me I can kill anything with only 1UA so long as I'm good at combat?

[wonder-ass]

LOL @ all the people pretending combat system has actual depth. It's a simple stat/quality comparison, and whoever has higher numbers wins by default.

yes for the 1% that actually knows how to pvp, for the other 99% you'd get stomped regardless of gear and stats.

[magisticus]

LOL @ all the people pretending combat system has actual depth. It's a simple stat/quality comparison, and whoever has higher numbers wins by default.

yes for the 1% that actually knows how to pvp, for the other 99% you'd get stomped regardless of gear and stats.

The 1% who 'know how to pvp' being the ones that roam around in packs of players with four digit combat stats and best q gear killing noobs and run away whenever they are outnumbered and someway manage to maintain their dopamine levels based soley in this for 10 years of doing the same thing on the same game ?

I know, this post is 6y old, and still not accurate with wannabe "forum drama and perma death" game leaders whose are slowly drifting away from harsh death from legacy anyway cause 90% players are not enjoying shit caused by max 10%.
BG have Flaming Fist, EVE has Concord to protect weaker.

You can do literally shit against 99% of griefers as casual player, while bunch of players have fun at cost of other.
pvp is invalid as balance argument.

BM was nice place for trading stuff with option for some socializing, pushing credos forward.
We can't have nice things.

Keep pvp realm thing, fighthing over cairns, thingwalls whatever

The main problem with pvp is that characters are, for the normal human with a job/life/gf, too valuable to risk because of the time and effort put into them while for others they can easily be replaced. In a way the risk of losing something that you have put a huge amount of effort into adds enjoyment to the game but it is problematic that it makes no sense to risk that for a few seconds of playing another aspect of the game. To get more pvp, risk of death either has to be non-existant or quality and stat progression needs to be capped so that characters are less valuable. For realism it doesn't to me make sense that one hearthling could have say 10 times the strength of another hearthling anyway.

I'm pretty sure the devs are hard set on not capping quality and stat progression which has been suggested before anyway but the other thing that could potentially resolve is the need to reset the world periodically. They have gone halfway to getting rid of permadeath anyway although that was one of the distinguishing features of the game in the early years.

Personally I would prefer a quality system that tended towards a perfect stat, ie as a percentage rather than a never-ending progression with no top end.

Another way to make pvp-ers and pve-ers able to exist together might be to have pvp/seige windows dependant on thingwalls akin to how kingdom expansion now works except with a larger, perhaps 50% window outside which time hearthlings entering the thingwall's area would have a debuff preventing them from fighting. Trouble is with this of course that the game presents, as the devs have pointed out, other ways to grief players than pvp.

[wonder-ass]

absolute defeatist mindset lmao. u get like 80% of your stats back when u die and the top statted characters early world were all people that had active jobs. somehow u guys convince yourselves its the game keeping you down every wipe and then face the harsh reality that ur just shit at the game when i beat ur ass with my 30 str cockslapper.

[Apocoreo]

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make or link pvp guide plz

[Baba_Ji]

I've also built a mountain

Pictures you lying sack of crap

[NeoBasilisk]

haha my kiwifarms thread is pinned in the haven discord you guys should consider contributing to it

Likes: Being a /pol/ user 10 years too late.

everything makes so much sense now
zoomer that was born too late to appreciate the old internet desperately longing for a bygone era