Place cooldown for hearthfire moving

[novaalpha]

I'm sorry but what the fuck kind of gameplay is this where people can just avoid all risk at the drop of a hat really.

Excuse me, but avoiding risk would require at the very least construction of several brickwalled vaults (like 7?). "Drop of a hat" ?

1 hearthvault = perfect defense

Nobody breaks into the fucking things and by the time you do the twits have moved out and scents are about to expire.

Ability to construct a vault that would take 8 days to break into is the "stupid rams & walls" part of current raid system (which I hate wholeheartedly), as well as indestructible objects thing.

But nothing about this problem is created by hearth fire moving.

[ewlol]

Ability to construct a vault that would take 8 days to break into is the "stupid rams & walls" part of current raid system (which I hate wholeheartedly), as well as indestructible objects thing.

But nothing about this problem is created by hearth fire moving.

Number 1) There are no indestructible objects.
2) I don't understand where you are coming up with 8 days? Are you talking about scent expiration or something?

[novaalpha]

Ability to construct a vault that would take 8 days to break into is the "stupid rams & walls" part of current raid system (which I hate wholeheartedly), as well as indestructible objects thing.

But nothing about this problem is created by hearth fire moving.

Number 1) There are no indestructible objects.
2) I don't understand where you are coming up with 8 days? Are you talking about scent expiration or something?

1 -- banners statues claim poles

2 --

Nobody breaks into the fucking things and by the time you do the twits have moved out and scents are about to expire.

I assume you were talking about scents expiration, no ?

[DatOneGuy]

The only reason 2 people seem to object to this is:

1) Obsession with convenience

The second something solves abuse by restricting use, it is bad.

Ability to construct a vault that would take 8 days to break into is the "stupid rams & walls" part of current raid system (which I hate wholeheartedly), as well as indestructible objects thing.

But nothing about this problem is created by hearth fire moving.

Number 1) There are no indestructible objects.
2) I don't understand where you are coming up with 8 days? Are you talking about scent expiration or something?

You're wrong, banners/statues are indestructible.
9 days for scents to run out (murder), so by practicing brinksmanship (stretching but not breaking the rules) you can make it take 8 rams (8 days) to get into a place. It will be technically within the rules, but no one would dare mount a raid on the place.

[Sarchi]

HFs are broken in that they can be moved so easily and securely.

To make hearthvaults less effective, there should be a 12 24 26 or 48 hour cooldown between the movement of your hearth. (this includes direct new building of the hearth and also smashing then building your hearth)

+1

[sabinati]

if there was a hearthfire cooldown or whatever there should be some additional teleportation mechanic with features similar to a hearthfire OR the cooldown should only apply if you have scents active OR what potjeh said about extending the timer

[Jackard]

teleport to wagon

[DatOneGuy]

teleport to wagon

That would be too good.
Of course it would be tied with wagons actually being tied to people?

[Jackard]

vaguely recall jorb mentioning something about putting hearthfires in wagons when they came out

[cloakblade]

9 days for scents to run out (murder), so by practicing brinksmanship (stretching but not breaking the rules) you can make it take 8 rams (8 days) to get into a place. It will be technically within the rules, but no one would dare mount a raid on the place.

Are you assuming you're making a new ram each time instead of repairing?