Wasted my time playing this game.

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Re: Wasted my time playing this game.

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:53 am

Be advised, TheMac that with a permadeath game, there is no save/load, A familar genre to this is rogue-like games where permadeath is almost the norm. Also some games allow you to enable hardcore mode game to turn on permadeath (Terraria and Diablo are only two example). In Haven and Hearth, when you do not have that option; you cannot even save scum like single player rogue-likes.

With that in mind, that in order to proceed further, you need to steel yourself against the strain of losing your character, perhaps multiple times. I sympathize your loss as I know the feel of the first time of losing a character. However I will tell you now that at the current world, you are going to stand to lose at least one character while learning from those experiences. My final advice is to not be too attached to your character. If you still aren't able to deal with the loss, I'd suggest to find a non-permadeath MMO.
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Re: Wasted my time playing this game.

Postby TheTylerLee » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:11 am

TheMac wrote:Hello, Im just informing you what an absolute waste of time this game turned out to be.

I was having such a great blast with this game, spending 2-3 days creating a home, and boasting to some about how fun this game is.

All of a sudden in the flash of an eye, I am attacked by a bear in the wilderness and killed within 10 seconds.
Then I go, "hmmmm why did my game randomly close?"

Already in the back of my mind, I was expecting the worse and stupidity of what was coming.

Sure enough, I google "haven and hearth death" and find a thread where the owner is boasting about

"DETH MEAN DETH IRL GUYS. U NO COME BAK, KAY?"

Great concept, seriously. Not only was this game only salvageable through hours of wikipedia searching with no actual IN GAME help whatsoever,
but you made it very clear to go out of your way to make it confusing for a first timer to not understand what happens if you die.

I am so dissapointed on what this game appeared to be at first glance, but am almost thankful i've died at this point to save me from continuing this apparent headache of a game.

Whomever created the idea of only being able to level up skills through looking at apples and bark was a terrible decision and reason #2 im thankful my character died.

So in short, stop making your game so ridiculous for first timers, get HELP menus, and CREATE A FUCKING RESURRECTION OPTION YOU DOLTS!

This is one player whom was willing to be dedicated to a fine game, but QUICKLY saw the many many many flaws, and ran away before it was too late, goodbye.



This game isnt for new people though.
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Re: Wasted my time playing this game.

Postby kanec » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:14 am

harhcore game for hardcore players :mrgreen:
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Re: Wasted my time playing this game.

Postby Nummy » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:36 am

I kinda agree with OP:

Death is too big penalty. It's good to be there because it is new concept and you have to look after character, but losing almost everything is too big. 25% loss LP and character death should be max loss.
Studying should be redone.
Community is... bad, if we can call this community at all.
There should be more help in game. I use ender client which has wiki "built" in, but still there should be more guidelines for newbs. S***m is even more mess...

I disagree:
bear is a strong beast and if you see one even in real life, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!

To OP:
You can ressurect if you die, just make new character and in character creation room you have rune stone which you click and you can inherit some stuff from previous character. To get pack to same place make another character with HF outside and HS only known to you so you can spawn back later if you need with new character. That way you can even go with new character back to old one and salvage gear from it.
Next pro tip: use enders client so you can get highlighted animals and dangers so you can easily avoid them before you manage to face them.
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Re: Wasted my time playing this game.

Postby Kaios » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:48 am

hey guys I failed to read the forum stickies and didn't read any of the wiki subjects that actually matter and then I died isn't that a cool story hahahaha I quit
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Re: Wasted my time playing this game.

Postby joojoo1975 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:51 am

why are we still posting here. . . damn now i'm part of the problem too :(
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