New character timer/limit

[Servant_Girl]

Ok, since throw away alts are a problem I submit unto you that having a system that makes spaming alts harder to do would be a step in the direction of solving this problem.

The root of the problem is that creating alts is very fast and easy, so if we make it slow it becomes a less appealing way to cheat.

So far I've not seen any reason why this wouldn't help Thanks for the feedback, I think this could work to at the very least cut in half the alt griefing.

[DDDsDD999]

1. Accounts aren't hard to make, they take 2 minutes tops to make, half a minute if you factory line it out, and you can easily swap between them for each spawn.
2. loftar and jorb hate setting arbitrary numbers to things, and hate internet proxy wars even more. (I don't mean proxy as in IP)
3. The people who actually use the same account for multiple character can easily get screwed by this, while the people alt-spamming know how to get around this and would have many accounts already set in preparation for alt spams.

Any one of these reasons are enough not to do this.

[SuperNoob]

So far I've not seen any reason why this wouldn't help

you mean you didn't read my post?

1. Accounts aren't hard to make, they take 2 minutes tops to make, half a minute if you factory line it out, and you can easily swap between them for each spawn.
2. loftar and jorb hate setting arbitrary numbers to things, and hate internet proxy wars even more. (I don't mean proxy as in IP)
3. The people who actually use the same account for multiple character can easily get screwed by this, while the people alt-spamming know how to get around this and would have many accounts already set in preparation for alt spams.

Any one of these reasons are enough not to do this.

and this

as far as:

Also there will still be a delay as you have to register each account and it would start the timer upon creating the first character for each account. This also adds to the effort it would take to alt spam and therefor reduce the number of people willing to do so.

most people already have atleast 2 accounts, add to that you don't need a 2nd email adress, and you realize that this does absolutely nothing! well maybe it slows down players who are trying to set up their alts on 1 or 2 accounts, but does nothing to stop alt spam...

[Servant_Girl]

Hmm, I see. I guess at best this would only stop them for a day or so while they updated their bot systems.

Well I tried XD

There must be some way to prevent the alt botting but it seems this is not it, back to the drawing board, eh?

[Tamalak]

Just brainstorming here, but instead of trying to chase accounts and IPs, maybe a limit on the new character spawns in a certain area? Or attached to a particular hearthfire? Or a family tree of hearthfires?

[Seizure]

Just brainstorming here, but instead of trying to chase accounts and IPs, maybe a limit on the new character spawns in a certain area? Or attached to a particular hearthfire? Or a family tree of hearthfires?

Wasnt it in W1-2 that we all spawned in the same spot? That spot became the best place for griefers to gather and kill pointlessly. We also used to have charter stones, which allowed people to spawn at the stone instead of the wilderness... But they were disabled for whatever reason.

You can spawn at a Hearthfire already, if thats what you meant. Thats kind of the reason the character limit/timer is being discussed, yes? Because of the silly ways so many alts can interfere with peoples lives.

Im not entirely sure about this family tree thing though. Please elaborate.

[Tamalak]

Just brainstorming here, but instead of trying to chase accounts and IPs, maybe a limit on the new character spawns in a certain area? Or attached to a particular hearthfire? Or a family tree of hearthfires?

Wasnt it in W1-2 that we all spawned in the same spot? That spot became the best place for griefers to gather and kill pointlessly. We also used to have charter stones, which allowed people to spawn at the stone instead of the wilderness... But they were disabled for whatever reason.

You can spawn at a Hearthfire already, if thats what you meant. Thats kind of the reason the character limit/timer is being discussed, yes? Because of the silly ways so many alts can interfere with peoples lives.

Im not entirely sure about this family tree thing though. Please elaborate.

What I meant was, attach a limit to the spawns on x hearthfire.

In fact, yeah, how about this: The number of TOTAL characters that can use the "ladder" option to spawn at your hearthfire is limited to your progress in the game. The more progress you've made, the higher the number of characters that can spawn at your hearthfire. Cooldown of 6 or 24 hours regardless of how much progress you've made. Gah, except that this would prevent a group of total noob players from starting the game together..

[DDDsDD999]

Just brainstorming here, but instead of trying to chase accounts and IPs, maybe a limit on the new character spawns in a certain area?

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[Gloosx]

It could be harder if 1 mail adress could have 1-2 accounts. Currently you can bind infinite accounts to a mail adress. Restrict this. Block 10minutemail and etc. Whoa, making alt accs is harder now. You have to spam mail adresses, then spam alts. The goal is to make alt-spammig hell-hard, so spammer would have to fuck with all that mail adresses and etc to make a single alt. Complete solution to this is binding account to mobile phone number, but it's crazy.

[SuperNoob]

It could be harder if 1 mail adress could have 1-2 accounts. Currently you can bind infinite accounts to a mail adress. Restrict this. Block 10minutemail and etc. Whoa, making alt accs is harder now. You have to spam mail adresses, then spam alts. The goal is to make alt-spammig hell-hard, so spammer would have to fuck with all that mail adresses and etc to make a single alt. Complete solution to this is binding account to mobile phone number, but it's crazy.

wouldn't fix things for people who already have a ton of alt accounts, and binding to a mobile number sucks for people who don't like to use them(I have a tracphone for emergencies that I add 10 minutes to every so often just so I don't lose the minutes I already have...little over 300 now)