For the whole post, Tl;Dr: If you're following an argument in this thread, I've addressed the person who brought the argument to the thread at the beginning of each section. So if you know you were cheering for someone in particular, Ctrl+F their name. Click their name to see the post which I address.
Tonkyhonk, there is no need to elaborate on topics that are not the point you're trying to get across. If you're trying to emulate a Nemawashi method, just begin with that and we can build off of that point.
Nemawashi as you've presented is a narrow definition of what I presented,
Vaku wrote:It is about engaging in discourse and in coming to and achieving greater opportunities.
We call Nemawashi something different in the States. It's called pussyfooting. If you have a proposal, you propose it and if someone disagrees they disagree and everyone goes back and forth until they reach a compromise.
Wikipedia Nemawashi wrote:Successful nemawashi enables changes to be carried out with the consent of all sides.
There's no need to pussyfoot alone when you can use the entire arsenal of human discourse. Being too Asian has nothing to do with it, it's about using what works for the situation.
Tonkyhonk wrote:you play your game, i play mine.
You may want to elaborate on what you've bolded as it seems to be a moot point.
What we play together, not apart, is Haven and Hearth. I'm using what is at everyone's disposal, the official Haven and Hearth forums, and you are as well. You're able to adapt to developing information, I don't withhold that from you. Choose to play the game how you will. I believe what you meant to get at is that my "style of play" is different from your "style of play." That's something that goes without saying. I am trying to understand your argument, I am. Don't believe that I'm "bashing your objections" I'm trying to understand them.
LadyV, do not misconstrue a conditional statement as a naive demand to enter some upper echelon of players.
LadyV wrote:No one likes being told what to do or how to play.
What I have consistently done is make suggestions. I'm going to continue my projects, and as usual everyone is free to make use of them how they see fit. If fear is going to overwhelm any portion of the population for being gifted knowledge, there's little I can do about that as I refuse to discriminate any Village Idol as more deserving than the other. Not even when I come across,
LadyV wrote:the private spot of a member of a big faction and upset them.
It is a mistake to treat me as though I am vulnerable to prestige or threats on my Hearthling's life. I am not phased by the death of a Hearthling. You will be able to find later in this post why I do not discriminate any village idol from another.
Seizure,
Seizure wrote:This idea is so great and nothing but good will, love, peace, flowers and puppies will come of it.
I've not suggested the world would become happy-go-lucky. I've only suggested that by engaging in this project, you've a clearer opportunity to change. The overwhelming and heart-felt responses would seem to confirm this. For peace or war, it's really up to you, as you can see is something I've had sitting in the original post,
Vaku wrote:This is a resource meant to be at the disposal of budding politicians, valorous tacticians and clever highwaymen.
Highwaymen are traditionally perceived as evil, cruel living outside the boundaries of rules. Tacticians are certainly not a product of peace time, and Politicians are the human piece to a neutral practice.
Play how you want to. I just hope through this message to you, you will understand that my personal feelings on how I would use this information is not the only method with which one can use this information. And as you've so plainly intended to use it to harm me, it is something I had already suspected to come from this information. Again, use it as you please as it is more descriptive of your character than it is mine.
Borka,borka wrote:
What do you think what would happen if you'd do the same with high q resources and post Coords with gathered informations ?!?
I'm afraid quality resource locations do not in the same way tell the story of human interaction as village idols and historical happenings do. If I did track that, I would only be capturing the story of the Resource Race, something that can be fully understood through an explanation on how quality Soil, Clay, Stone and Water have the capacity to affect crafted materials.
That being said, what I think would happen is that people would make a fuss. It was something I was prepared for from the get-go. Is it within my goals to outline resource locations? No.
Gunnar,
_Gunnar wrote:i liked all this when it was more of a scholarly project rather than social engineering...
mind you it will never happen, where is Gondor after all?
The scholarly aspect is still there, as I still continue to do this for public knowledge. What diverted this to Social Engineering was namely Amanda's discontent. Fearful about how this information can be used. She along with some others are sure that the only possible outcome of this information is the death of hermits. I felt the need to explain some greater outcomes that could be accomplished through the use of this information. But at the end of the day, the information is there for anyone to do with what they will.
Now, you also bring up Gondor, and I believe you are referring to the
Gondor Project proposal by Yolan. I have little to say about that other than my proposals were not taken into practice.
morrogoth, the information for all those examples was sensitive and secretive. Unless people are naming their idols Fertilizer, Perfect Stones are Dasani Q90 Water, there is no sensitive information in a name. Frankly if that's the case, the person naming the town should have the foresight to know someone will visit the location of the town sooner or later.
AnnaC, the list here is not random, and has a large part to do with this clause from the History thread,
Vaku wrote:Significant topics: The founding of a village
If I did not think such activities were inherently interesting to me for explaining the story of HnH, I would not bother tracking it.
Regarding the grid system, people are very familiar with game boards, Chess being one of the more popular game boards has a grid systems identical to board systems internationally. Bottom left is always A1. If the board expands, I rewrite.
Amanda. Oh
Amanda,
Amanda,
Amanda.
This is much ado about nothing. I am happy to see you have strong feelings on these issues and that you're so determined to speak on behalf of yourself and the sake of Hermits like you. I hear you, I understand your complaints, but the content of this thread will not discriminate one village idol from another.
It takes me a whole day to survey one supergrid. I can do 2 supergrids if I am really industrious. I suggest you rejoice in that. With 5x5 supergrids, and I've only explored 2 so far, and not even that, just the white space, it will take me at least a month to get all the information up here if I was working day after day on this. And I can tell you now, I haven't been, nor do I have the time to. Mind you, I'm also working alone.
On top of that there are 24 other supergrids in the Outlands, all of which I won't be surveying until they become shown on algeralith's map. If he's sympathetic with such information not becoming public knowledge then the Outlands will always remain the Outlands and remain the perfect frontier for hermit players to play and live as you feel they should live and play like today.
J/K Pppffffftttt, me stay mad about anything? Doesn't happen. Besides, who else would I call if someone attacked me...Okay it was Jordan who attacked me this time, but hey.... ummm all he got out of it was a little head. 
whahahhaha 
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