Hardened Leather Quality Formula!

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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!

Postby mvgulik » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:31 pm

SpakyPD wrote:After that, I would suggest that the equation above with the soft-capping shown is the equation unless someone can show a set of current data that does not fit.


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Id   Who_________   Lt   Wt   Cq   Ct   WTq   FLq   Sew   Dex   Spy   GOq
1   MagicManICT_   93   42   20   C   38   10   30   30   ?   21   --- No match (both: 24.625).
2   MagicManICT_   91   41   20   C   38   10   30   30   ?   20   --- No match (both: 23.9375).
- No softcap on both data cases, for both formula cases.
- Form1: SC(  ((((LeatherAv + WaxAv)/2)*3) + ((Water + Cauldron)/2))/4  )
- Form2: ((  SC((LeatherAv + WaxAv)/2)  *3) + ((Water + Cauldron)/2))/4
(outlines correct in edit mode.)

Oops, correction. Picked the delta instead of the final value.
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!

Postby SpakyPD » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:09 am

mvgulik wrote:
SpakyPD wrote:After that, I would suggest that the equation above with the soft-capping shown is the equation unless someone can show a set of current data that does not fit.


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Id   Who_________   Lt   Wt   Cq   Ct   WTq   FLq   Sew   Dex   Spy   GOq
1   MagicManICT_   93   42   20   C   38   10   30   30   ?   21   --- No match (both: 3.375).
2   MagicManICT_   91   41   20   C   38   10   30   30   ?   20   --- No match (both: 3.938).
- No softcap on both data cases, for both formula cases.
- Form1: SC(  ((((LeatherAv + WaxAv)/2)*3) + ((Water + Cauldron)/2))/4  )
- Form2: ((  SC((LeatherAv + WaxAv)/2)  *3) + ((Water + Cauldron)/2))/4
(outlines correct in edit mode.)


Well, I dislike the unknown of the Q of the cauldron, and that it is clay. When I get around to proving the cauldron Q, I will try and test clay cauldrons too.
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!

Postby vatas » Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:22 pm

Q30 leather
Q20 Wax (20 and 21, rounded down in my experience)
Q20 Cauldron
Q39 Water

DEX 33
PSY 21
SEW 38

Hardened Leather came out Q26
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!

Postby mvgulik » Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:01 pm

Erm ... I think my spreadsheet has gone on strike. Its refusing to process data that lacks a clay or metal specification on the cauldron.
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!

Postby Yasgur » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:10 pm

LTt: 27*3 = 81
WXt: 11*2 = 22
CLq: 0
CLt: Clay
WTq: 20
FLq: 23
Sew: 21
Dex: 21
Psy: 10
GRq: 16

Old formula (((Av Leather + Av Wax)/2) *3 + ((Water+Cauldron)/2))/4 gives predicted result of 16.75, which matches game result.
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!

Postby Agasi » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:30 am

Q26 Metal Cauldron
Q22 Water
Q10 Fuel

Creating Character Stats:
28 Dex
90 Sewing
28 Psy

Q9 Leather
Q10 Wax
=Q12 H Leather

Q9 Leather
Q11 Wax
=Q13 H Leather

Q9 Leather
Q12 Wax
=Q13 H Leather
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!

Postby mvgulik » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:17 pm

Yasgur wrote:CLq: 0
CLt: Clay

Erm. Is that Zero cauldron quality for real ?
(don't think that's possible, or at least not easy.)
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!

Postby Yasgur » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:09 am

That was a nod to statements I've read that clay cauldrons have no quality, or, they halve the quality of the water for purposes of calculation. In either repsect, for this topic it is the same as saying Qcauldron = 0.
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:01 am

mvgulik wrote:Erm. Is that Zero cauldron quality for real ?

Yasgur wrote:That was a nod to statements I've read that clay cauldrons have no quality, or, they halve the quality of the water for purposes of calculation. In either repsect, for this topic it is the same as saying Qcauldron = 0.


Agreed. See my previous post in this thread using a clay cauldron.
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!

Postby mvgulik » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:40 am

When it comes to data. I should be pure and devoid of additional adjustments, no matter what the reason.

*shakes head*
I'm kinda done with this for now.
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