Make ranged combat more viable

[the_portals]

As it is, ranged combat is just something you hardly see outside of hunting, and even less in PvP, except for taking out still-standing dudes out of reach. I want to see a dual-crossbow-wielding badass taking out full platoons of fighters!

First of all, a greater variety of ranged weapons would be a welcome change; there would be two categories, ammunition-based and thrown. These should be self-explanatory, ammunition shoots stuff, with thrown you throw the weapon, but you can have a stack of them so you don't end up spending q90 steel on a one-use weapon.

Next, instead of the stand-still-and-aim mechanic currently implemented, rather the aim bar would essentially become your attack bar, which would be effected by how mobile your target is (how much they're moving), and their agility, and your defense would be replaced by dodge because if you use ranged equipment, aka light armor, you won't be wanting to absorb the blunt-end of a devastating blow.

In addition you have a whole new set of moves and maneuvers, such as "Eagle Eye" which greatly restores aim, but requires you to stand still for a second, leaving you vulnerable to a follow-up attack. Or in the case of maneuvers, you have "Careful Aim" wherein you move slower and your attack/aim meter fills up faster, and "Quick Reflexes", increasing your chance to dodge, but lowering your chance to hit.

Of course, I don't have every little thing plotted out, and I'm sure there's a big hole in my idea I didn't see coming, so what do you guys think?

[overtyped]

As it is, ranged combat is just something you hardly see outside of hunting, and even less in PvP, except for taking out still-standing dudes out of reach. I want to see a dual-crossbow-wielding badass taking out full platoons of fighters!

First of all, a greater variety of ranged weapons would be a welcome change; there would be two categories, ammunition-based and thrown. These should be self-explanatory, ammunition shoots stuff, with thrown you throw the weapon, but you can have a stack of them so you don't end up spending q90 steel on a one-use weapon.

Next, instead of the stand-still-and-aim mechanic currently implemented, rather the aim bar would essentially become your attack bar, which would be effected by how mobile your target is (how much they're moving), and their agility, and your defense would be replaced by dodge because if you use ranged equipment, aka light armor, you won't be wanting to absorb the blunt-end of a devastating blow.

In addition you have a whole new set of moves and maneuvers, such as "Eagle Eye" which greatly restores aim, but requires you to stand still for a second, leaving you vulnerable to a follow-up attack. Or in the case of maneuvers, you have "Careful Aim" wherein you move slower and your attack/aim meter fills up faster, and "Quick Reflexes", increasing your chance to dodge, but lowering your chance to hit.

Of course, I don't have every little thing plotted out, and I'm sure there's a big hole in my idea I didn't see coming, so what do you guys think?

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[TeckXKnight]

This sounds like it's meant for a different game entirely. For one thing, you are suggesting a bonus to dodge chance. There is no dodge chance, or chance to hit, in Haven or any other luck based skill. Everything is simple addition and subtraction. If your opponent has 100 points in their blue bar and you have 50 points in your red bar, you will miss but take off 50 points in their blue bar, assuming there are no modifiers such as from a shield or special move.

I'm of the opinion that ranged combat does need a rework so that it isn't as much of a 'Instant Kill or Do Nothing' combat style as it is now. How to do that though? I have no clue. Definitely not like this.

[LadyV]

Im all for new ranged weapons, combat manuevers for them, and even special bonus against certain armors. Dual wielding crossbows that take out entire platoons? No that's to much.

[the_portals]

Im all for new ranged weapons, combat manuevers for them, and even special bonus against certain armors. Dual wielding crossbows that take out entire platoons? No that's to much.

Well, I don't mean the crossbows that take out the platoons, but rather the user, but he looks badass using them.

[CTheRain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zGnxeSbb3g

Aiming, Accuracy, and Reload time should be like this:

1. Shortbows: They take the shortest amount of time to aim(Again depending on skill), its pretty fucking accurate at 10-20meters and it has gatling gun capabilities according to the video above.

2.Crossbows: They take the 2nd shortest amount to aim(Depending on skill), it essentially has rail gun accuracy for 45meters. It takes the longest to reload whether you got a sinew string or metal. Metal goes farther, hits harder, and will pierce a shield + armor too.

3. Longbows: They take the longest amount of time to aim because of their distance. Not really accurate nor do they have the ability to pierce armor as well as a crossbow or a shortbow. But that range is unbelievable.

If they did update archery, I think slings and shortbows should get passives that help them in CQC. Crossbows and Longbows should get buffs to range. Crossbows would just attack, slight chance to miss, and would have a long period of reloading that must be completed before shooting again. Or they can run off and hide somewhere. I'll add more later as I'm being begged to go to bed.

[Ryune]

I would like crossbow-guns added to the game eventually. so its a hand held weapon that has fast charge time with a weaker power

[LadyV]

If you want more viable ranged combat the answer is simply arrow head types and the ability to make metal tips for greater penetration. If we look at historical examples there were many special arrow heads designed for different purposes and armors.

[Cajoes]

Personally I'd like to see shields actually do something against arrows. Which was their primary reason for being carried around in battle in the first place.

What is your thoughts on slings and thrown weapons?

[NOOBY93]

I'm sure they're aware of ranged combat being useless except when Loftar uses it, but I'm almost certain there's no way to make ranged a viable combat mechanic in the current combat system. Primarily because fighters move around constantly, and because the combat is oriented around bars and moves. If, like now, it would ignore bars, but deal much more damage, it would probably be overpowered. But if it didn't ignore bars, it would just be a slower version of normal combat as it is right now.