WTT Tin FOR Copper

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Re: Our tin for your copper

Postby Lothaudus » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:37 pm

Thijssnl wrote:It first has to be proven/disproven to be known and thus a fact.

The car is red is a fact. Not because it is known that the car is red or that there even was a car but because the "fact" can be proven correct (there is a car and it is indeed red), or proved incorrect (there is no car, or there is a car but it is not red).

An unknown fact, depending on how you want to read it, could be saying "there are things which can be proven or disproven that we have not yet discovered". It could also be saying "These are the facts, but wheteher they are true or not is unknown". For example, the car is red may be known to be truthful where-as there may be unknown facts about the car. Was there a driver, What type of car was it, How fast was it going? This is the suggested usage in this instance as it has indeed been confirmed as accurate that ore has infinite Q.

Thijssnl wrote:Also, the OP stated the metal itsself, 'what Q is your tin', while they could better ask 'Do you have full industry'.

Uhhh... No. Because trading ore is still a bad idea. You still don't know how many bars you're going to get out of it and trading bars is more efficient and more useful than trading ore anyway. Even at full industry you might get as little as 4 bars or as many as 10 bars out of a chest full of ore. Where-as a chest full of tin is... 36 bars of glorious tin. If you're going to travel a long way to trade, you typically want to maximise your result.

It's also fairly established that when players talk about trading metals, they're talking about bars and when someone asks "What Q", they're asking about the Q of the bar. Not the Q of the infinite Q ore itself. So really, Sabinati was asking: "If you make all that ore into metal bars for me you because that would make it worth my time to haul my ass out where-ever you are and trade with you, then what Q would those bars be?".

And then if you wanted to be anal about it, and you still wanted to insist on trading the ore, you wouldn't ask "Do you have full industry" but "Were they mined at full industry?".

Thijssnl wrote:You have some quite nice idea's (working out regions and stuff in a post in the announcements)

Thanks.

... and some people say I need to post those things in some other forum for them to be read.

Thijssnl wrote:but this post isnt really correcting me, since I was correct.

That is a fact but it has been proven false. :)
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