Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby Vigilance » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:42 pm

That, in my experience, isn't a "build more supports" thing, unless you equally disperse damage across supports covering the caved in area.

if one of my supports breaks through some means just because the same area is being covered by another I'm still gonna get smashed because my support prevented a cave in at some point.

I would really just need to see how I feel about it in a month when I'm swimming in excess metal and I've felt my way around every support. If this is a "i forgot a 0" case and two nuggets would repair 120% of the thing's health in this instance then I could understand and, reluctantly, accept it.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby shubla » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:42 pm

jorb wrote:We can discuss the ratio, but in principle I think it's very reasonable that minsupports don't give you the ability to just mine away willy-nilly, paying zero attention to what crazy caveins you're digging into. Build more supports if you want to be more careless.

what the fuck jorb
mining was already awfully tedious

Also you made mining just 100x harder while not buffing curios that require metal at all.
Seriously, you should balance food & curios more.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby 2d0x » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:48 pm

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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby Mafious » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:10 pm

42%??? You bitches be careful im going to rekt all your mines and undegeound shit with domino cave ins.
https://strawpoll.com/xh2d3zr2 if you give a fuck about mining vote on this. Make mining great again! Bring back old supports.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby loftar » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:15 pm

Vigilance wrote:if one of my supports breaks through some means just because the same area is being covered by another I'm still gonna get smashed because my support prevented a cave in at some point.

That's not the current mechanic anymore, though. Nowadays, if a support breaks, it doesn't cause any cave-ins if the area it supports are still supported by other supports.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby Vigilance » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:18 pm

loftar wrote:
Vigilance wrote:if one of my supports breaks through some means just because the same area is being covered by another I'm still gonna get smashed because my support prevented a cave in at some point.

That's not the current mechanic anymore, though. Nowadays, if a support breaks, it doesn't cause any cave-ins if the area it supports are still supported by other supports.

i dont believe you because i have ptsd from getting smashed by an unreasonable event

though i'll trust your judgement and flame you if it turns out you lied to me
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby Granger » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:19 pm

With the cost for repair tuned down to 10 nuggets for a repair from 1% to full health (and scaling lineary) it would be OK, IMHO.
In case you think that cost isn't high enough:
Why not introduce damage spreading over multiple ingredients, so eg. wooden supports need both nuggets and wood blocks for repair?
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby MadNomad » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:23 pm

Granger wrote:With the cost for repair tuned down to 10 nuggets for a repair from 1% to full health (and scaling lineary) it would be OK, IMHO.


no! supports are made out of wood or stone!
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby Mafious » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:25 pm

loftar wrote:
Vigilance wrote:if one of my supports breaks through some means just because the same area is being covered by another I'm still gonna get smashed because my support prevented a cave in at some point.

That's not the current mechanic anymore, though. Nowadays, if a support breaks, it doesn't cause any cave-ins if the area it supports are still supported by other supports.

Clear up something for me loftar, if i break support (1) inside the radius of another support (2) will support (2) take damage from the cave in or not?
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby azrid » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:37 pm

shubla wrote:mining was already awfully tedious

Before you just selected a big area and tabbed out to watch a movie or something.
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