dagrimreefah wrote:Pills wrote:- Honestly, if there was a debate for the removal of PvP, i would be on the side of removing it because I don't see enough viable solutions to fix the issues that having it brings to the game now.
You completely lost me there. Haven and Hearth is just literally farmville without PvP. It's dead. Boring. No thrill. I don't understand why retards like you don't see that. Not everyone has an old grandma mindset like you. Like jorb said, it isn't a pvp game but it's a game with pvp in it, which is, whether some people want to admit it or not, one of the alluring aspects of this game.
Also a huge chunk of the game's experience has flaws, so just remove the whole thing? That's like removing your esophagus to relieve heartburn. Can whiny weak hearted man-grandmas PLEASE not gay up this game like they did to every other mmorpg in the last 20 years with PvP in it? Can we have just one fucking game?
I mean, you have a point, without PvP it would be 'mostly' dead for the hardcore pvp players. And for all I do actually enjoy PvP, I personally don't have the time to put up with autistic dickheads who decide they want to spend their entire life trying to bully you in a video game. Yes I think PvP should be in the game, I don't actually want it to be fully removed, however, I also don't see myself playing next world because I just can't be bothered with the drama that comes from playing haven now. Speaking purely anecdotaly, for me the fun from haven comes from the social aspect of the first 2 months of a new world when there are like 30-40 people in the group i'm in playing the game and talking/helping each other. This world was over for me the day snail decided he was going to spend 3 weeks no-lifing outside our walls trying to constantly grief us, I mean, we didn't get seiged and sure the PvP part of it was actually fun, but could I be fucking bothered with it after the 3rd day? Having to get up early to check the fucking game before getting ready for work, or having to jump on the moment I finish work because shit is kicking off, absolutely not. Since having an actual adult life I no longer have the time to be glued to my pc 24/7 to care about and subsequently deal with haven drama, and i'm 99% sure that a significant portion of the player-base likely feels the same way now since the majority of us who are still here from Legacy days are no longer teenagers with no real lives. If that makes me a "whiny weak hearted man-grandmas" for having an actual life then so be it, I couldn't really give a fuck. That's where my issue with PvP lies, I guess that's not an issue with PvP itself, but rather an issue with certain people just not having a life and the dev's not drawing any line at all on absolutely excessive cancerous toxicity.