At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

[joojoo1975]

The previous thing about animal nodes just got patched that was like the only real botting example u had kaois lol. Salt bots already got patched I already said you cant harvest the same node more than once. Dont conflate bots with alts. Yes there will be alts on every salt node. Making alts is kinda whatever. Anyone can do it. Surely if anyone can do it then its not an issue. Now you gotta march them between nodes after every harvest. Unless salt is significantly buffed Im still not sure people will even bother lol.

I think you post on the wrong thread there

And we already discussed how these things work. Why are you rehashing it again?

[dafels]

Unless anybody has anything new to reply I will ask the mods to lock thread tomorrow

Thanks again

Good riddance

[MightySheep]

its 30 pages deep who cares what ur original point was I didnt even read it lol ur posts are rarely worth reading ur the dumbest person on this forum which is saying a lot because there is some very strong competition

[joojoo1975]

its 30 pages deep who cares what ur original point was I didnt even read it lol ur posts are rarely worth reading ur the dumbest person on this forum which is saying a lot because there is some very strong competition

wow, a misdirect with insults galore. Classic sheep as always.

Good to know you are ending in this thread how most see you

[Kaios]

Oh no you'll have to log out two characters at a salt node instead of one, now it's impossible to pick it with a bot!

Forgive me if I have my doubts about how successful the quality node change will be in accomplishing anything, if they don't immediately reverse it. The "fix" is so vague like what do they even mean by drift, drift gradually by x,y position? Drift across the map? Drift to the moon? Tokyo Drift? Sounds like it might incentivize botting more rather than deter it but we will see. That's not the ONLY example, it's one example. I also mentioned how much farming gets botted too.

99% of the game consists of more than just combat, I have no idea where you are even getting this notion from that everything revolves around player versus player combat.

[MightySheep]

Oh no you'll have to log out two characters at a salt node instead of one, now it's impossible to pick it with a bot!

? my understanding is a character cant pick the last resource node it already picked, so you have to manually to the next node, dropping 2 off at a node doesnt do anything you still need to manually walk and why would you need to bot something on a 3 day timer, its just log in and collect, u gonna dedicate client to running this bot forever for a 3 day cycle?

maybe someones made a bot that does the walking, literally anything is possible in the realm of made up hypothesis but even before this fix was introduced I could get as much salt as I could be bothered to make alts to get so again I dont even see where bots come into it

its something anyone can do, and killing these alts with your main is something pretty much anyone can do also, it literally takes you 10x less effort to bash the hf and kill the alt than it does for the person who owns the alt to replace it, the tedium is very much not in their favor on this 1, theres no way around the pain in the ass it is to put alts everywhere with the stats to not cap salt etc. Killing salt alts is something ive done plenty of times just because I know its annoying as hell for them

[Kaios]

My bad, that's what I'm saying you just alternate their positions with multiple characters. Once an alt picks a node you're probably bringing it back immediately anyways unless there's other stuff nearby to go after, then you send it off somewhere else and replace it with one of the others. You are right, anyone can do that.

I think you are really underestimating how fairly simple it is for many of these implementations to be circumvented though.

[MightySheep]

U say circumvented like there's something sneaky about just walking around harvesting salt normally with 2nd account that's just playing the game normally lol

[Avu]

Are we seriously comparing botted alts controlled by something that never sleeps never eats never poops, that don't go past mild irritation if they do get killed at a gathering spot to a secondary character that you manually have to get there and be focused and on time every single time it respawns? Wow

[Kaios]

U say circumvented like there's something sneaky about just walking around harvesting salt normally with 2nd account that's just playing the game normally lol

I’m referring to methods of circumvention with the utilization of bot scripts in regard to any/all mechanics changes, but what Avu said too.

For instance, you mentioned bashing hf but it’s a newbie tactic to keep the hearthfires of alts at the resource node and outside of walls. You know how I mentioned setting up travel hubs? Well there are many benefits in doing that one of which includes a safe place nearby resource locations to immediately hearth back to after the node is picked.

That’s one way of going about it, I’m sure other players have the same/similar methods or their own ways of handling that stuff.