Is the game dying already due to group/faction murder hobos?

[Garthavaan]

honestly if you play purely just to kill every other player you see, i think your a piece of shit. lots of people just want to play the game and have fun. grieving players is in now way fun unless your an asshole.

i wont waste my time on the pvp skills at all. hate the system around it. made it fine going solo so far with 100 hour character now with every skill thats needed to craft and trade with everyone. i have no problem quitting this game forever the second i lose this character tho. not gonna grind just so some twat can get their rocks off tormenting players lol

[Austinh15]

honestly if you play purely just to kill every other player you see, i think your a piece of shit. lots of people just want to play the game and have fun. grieving players is in now way fun unless your an asshole.

i wont waste my time on the pvp skills at all. hate the system around it. made it fine going solo so far with 100 hour character now with every skill thats needed to craft and trade with everyone. i have no problem quitting this game forever the second i lose this character tho. not gonna grind just so some twat can get their rocks off tormenting players lol

"I won't interact with the thing that will help me defend myself"

"I will quit if someone hurts me"

This is literally natural selection.

[The_Lich_King]

honestly if you play purely just to kill every other player you see, i think your a piece of shit. lots of people just want to play the game and have fun. grieving players is in now way fun unless your an asshole.

i wont waste my time on the pvp skills at all. hate the system around it. made it fine going solo so far with 100 hour character now with every skill thats needed to craft and trade with everyone. i have no problem quitting this game forever the second i lose this character tho. not gonna grind just so some twat can get their rocks off tormenting players lol

"I won't interact with the thing that will help me defend myself"

"I will quit if someone hurts me"

This is literally natural selection.

He won't interact with it because the opposition is so far ahead that there is no point in trying to fight back vs running. this is the reality of basically all solo players.

[Austinh15]

He won't interact with it because the opposition is so far ahead that there is no point in trying to fight back vs running. this is the reality of basically all solo players.

This game doesn't teach you that having water+bunny slippers+forager is basically all you need to run away. Hell, this game doesn't teach you that being ko'd over deep water in a rowboat is a death sentence. This game doesn't even teach you how to protect your stuff properly. But giving up isn't the answer.

[HingleMcCringle17]

He won't interact with it because the opposition is so far ahead that there is no point in trying to fight back vs running. this is the reality of basically all solo players.

This game doesn't teach you that having water+bunny slippers+forager is basically all you need to run away. Hell, this game doesn't teach you that being ko'd over deep water in a rowboat is a death sentence. This game doesn't even teach you how to protect your stuff properly. But giving up isn't the answer.

One does not simply get bunny slipper and drink water and get away. It's not a guarantee and it takes time to learn. So yes while there is a possibility of getting away its small and most people value their time more then the time.it takes to master having to run away from every other human character on sight. To quit after the first time this happen. Yeah haven is probably not the game for you, but at the same time being killed with zero player interaction is also nonsense. I agree that PVP is part of the game but I think there ought be more consequences for PVP for the sake of PVP.

[Master_chan]

He won't interact with it because the opposition is so far ahead that there is no point in trying to fight back vs running. this is the reality of basically all solo players.

This game doesn't teach you that having water+bunny slippers+forager is basically all you need to run away. Hell, this game doesn't teach you that being ko'd over deep water in a rowboat is a death sentence. This game doesn't even teach you how to protect your stuff properly. But giving up isn't the answer.

One does not simply get bunny slipper and drink water and get away. It's not a guarantee and it takes time to learn. So yes while there is a possibility of getting away its small and most people value their time more then the time.it takes to master having to run away from every other human character on sight. To quit after the first time this happen. Yeah haven is probably not the game for you, but at the same time being killed with zero player interaction is also nonsense. I agree that PVP is part of the game but I think there ought be more consequences for PVP for the sake of PVP.

Practically a guarantee and you can learn outside of combat - click critters, collect speedbuffs and chug water when you gather.

[Austinh15]

It takes time. It takes getting shit on. But at the end of the day, learning is essential to all games.

[HingleMcCringle17]

It takes time. It takes getting shit on. But at the end of the day, learning is essential to all games.

Well I guess there is a reason only a few 1000 people will ever play this game because most people can afford the time investment required to play it bit sad because there is plenty of content outside PVP to explore. Which is why the game will remain as niche as it is which is what this post is about

[nobleranger]

because there is plenty of content outside PVP to explore. Which is why the game will remain as niche as it is which is what this post is about

This is important, alot of players or forum dwellers see this and say
" But muh PVP"
Without acknowledging the fact that this game can and will stagnate from the forced PVP. I have seen many longtime players leave from the hatred, the abuse, the empowerment that free form pvp offers.

YES it is necessary to have pvp

YES it is fun and engaging to have PVP

YES this game would not be the same without it

BUT fact is, pvp might be better off as a gated or maybe more enabled content. The griefers that hover alts around gates can be solved with alt solutions

Lots of problems lots of solutions but honestly if the game doesn't survive long enough to find them it's because of the "then go play a different game " mentality, because they will. And eventually Jorb and Loftar will be too old for this shit. Maybe already are

There are a ton of solutions or ideas really already listed so no need to go back through them, and as always it's the Eternal Alpha! So welcome change or revile it, until it's balanced it's not finished.

[matheuswm]

honestly if you play purely just to kill every other player you see, i think your a piece of shit. lots of people just want to play the game and have fun. grieving players is in now way fun unless your an asshole.

i wont waste my time on the pvp skills at all. hate the system around it. made it fine going solo so far with 100 hour character now with every skill thats needed to craft and trade with everyone. i have no problem quitting this game forever the second i lose this character tho. not gonna grind just so some twat can get their rocks off tormenting players lol

"I won't interact with the thing that will help me defend myself"

"I will quit if someone hurts me"

This is literally natural selection.

terminally online people incapable of understanding people might play a game differently calling the shots on natural selection

priceless