Haven and Racism

[CSPAN]

Niggers, spics, and jews mean no good news.

PTSD PTSD PTSD

[Duane]

I have met, in my time, one friendly Russian player. Every other player from Russia I've met will 100% aggro me on sight while typing in Cyrillic.

Poles are fine. Koreans will even talk with capture2text and a translator program. Swedes are aces. It's only Russians. -(

[dageir]

You see. Discussing anything serious on these forums always ends in total chaos and immature posts such as this.

[VDZ]

Whites, blacks and asians are equals. On the other siede - gypsies (like Nooby) shouldn't be allowed to post on the forums.


im posting in a troll thread made by a troll so im trolling

What about any of my posts makes me a troll? I've been completely consistent in stating my beliefs.

Dismissing someone else as a "troll" doesn't validate you being totally racist.

Trolling is making any kind of post, honest or not, intended to cause a stir. I can't tell if you're really this oblivious or whether you're indeed a very good troll, but going out of your way to post opinions a majority disagrees with is generally considered trolling; even if not intended as such it will be interpreted like that. If I go to a literature forum and post that Shakespeare's writing is terrible, it is a troll post. Not because I am being dishonest about my opinion - I truly dislike Shakespeare's writing - but because I am taking a stance that's so strongly against the majority opinion that people will feel insulted merely by me expressing that opinion.

[cecelia]

[Ysh]

Whites, blacks and asians are equals. On the other siede - gypsies (like Nooby) shouldn't be allowed to post on the forums.


im posting in a troll thread made by a troll so im trolling

What about any of my posts makes me a troll? I've been completely consistent in stating my beliefs.

Dismissing someone else as a "troll" doesn't validate you being totally racist.

Trolling is making any kind of post, honest or not, intended to cause a stir. I can't tell if you're really this oblivious or whether you're indeed a very good troll, but going out of your way to post opinions a majority disagrees with is generally considered trolling; even if not intended as such it will be interpreted like that. If I go to a literature forum and post that Shakespeare's writing is terrible, it is a troll post. Not because I am being dishonest about my opinion - I truly dislike Shakespeare's writing - but because I am taking a stance that's so strongly against the majority opinion that people will feel insulted merely by me expressing that opinion.

I do not think an honest opinion should be called trolling.

[dageir]

Misplaced, but not trolling. We do judge people on their actions and not intentions, so..

[Vaku]

You're fighting symptoms here; the problem is not the racial slurs, but the people using them and the hate for which they're used.

I'd add that the failing scores in citizenship, the participants in this forum would receive, stem from a lack of exposure to scenarios in which they'd been the subject of derogatory remarks, bigotry, discrimination or otherwise. Anonymity begets a lack of empathy, and that's a component of what this forum, or gaming communities worldwide, experience.

There are really a lot of elements that are at play, and unfortunately a forum thread for broad discussion, might not hit home for a lot of people.

I don't insist on stopping the discussion, but I would recommend facing it in a more potent way, in a more suitable environment, and really, it's better to pick your fights one-on-one.

"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference," etc., etc.

[Ysh]

You're fighting symptoms here; the problem is not the racial slurs, but the people using them and the hate for which they're used.

I'd add that the failing scores in citizenship, the participants in this forum would receive, stem from a lack of exposure to scenarios in which they'd been the subject of derogatory remarks, bigotry, discrimination or otherwise. Anonymity begets a lack of empathy, and that's a component of what this forum, or gaming communities worldwide, experience.

There are really a lot of elements that are at play, and unfortunately a forum thread for broad discussion, might not hit home for a lot of people.

I don't insist on stopping the discussion, but I would recommend facing it in a more potent way, in a more suitable environment, and really, it's better to pick your fights one-on-one.

"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference," etc., etc.

Is really it correct to using this many commas in the writing?

[Vaku]

You're fighting symptoms here; the problem is not the racial slurs, but the people using them and the hate for which they're used.

I'd add that the failing scores in citizenship, the participants in this forum would receive, stem from a lack of exposure to scenarios in which they'd been the subject of derogatory remarks, bigotry, discrimination or otherwise. Anonymity begets a lack of empathy, and that's a component of what this forum, or gaming communities worldwide, experience.

There are really a lot of elements that are at play, and unfortunately, a forum thread for broad discussion might not hit home for a lot of people.

I don't insist on stopping the discussion, but I would recommend facing it in a more potent way, in a more suitable environment, and really, it's better to pick your fights one-on-one.

"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference," etc., etc.

Is really it correct to using this many commas in the writing?

When used correctly, and these are.